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Truffaut/Godard

By November 13, 2008No Comments

Nuit #1

La nuit amer­i­caine, Francois Truffaut, 1973

Inspired by a cita­tion in a Kent Jones essay in the book­let for Zeitgeist’s excel­lent new edi­tion of Olivier Assayas’ Irma Vep, I watched both Le nuit amer­i­caine and Vep back to back. They’re both great, exhil­ar­at­ing films that really don’t have a whole lot to do with each oth­er, as it turns out. I’ll post more detailed find­ings later. In the mean­time, here’s an image from the Truffaut—a shot in which the film-within-a-film’s fic­ti­tious dir­ect­or, played by Truffaut, is unpack­ing some books—that, from the vant­age point of 2008, is sadly mov­ing in a num­ber of ways. 

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  • bill says:

    I’m going to make a con­fes­sion here: I just watched “Breathless” for the first time the oth­er day, mak­ing it only my fourth Godard, and it simply left me cold. Mind you, I could under­stand why it knocked every­one for a loop at the time, but Godard’s brand of loop-knocking kind of…bores me. I just don’t click with him. I’m not going to stop watch­ing his films, because that would be silly, but my optim­ism of dis­cov­er­ing some­thing that will excite me in his work is waning.
    Sorry, everybody…

  • Glenn Kenny says:

    I would have figured “Breathless” would be right up at least one of your alleys, Bill. But c’est la vie. Maybe I’ll try to set up an indoc­trin­a­tion ses­sion when the Blu-ray for “Contempt” comes out.
    But seriously—as much of a Godard lov­er as I am, I’m not affron­ted by your con­fes­sion. This sort of thing might be a good idea for a future post—not so much “blind spots,” as that’s a trifle judgmental—but films/directors that just don’t do it for one, des­pite repu­ta­tion and even acknow­ledged significance.

  • bill says:

    I figured “Breathless” was going to be a make-it-or-break-it film, because it’s a crime film, of sorts, and builds off noir, and Melville, and all that. But Godard does­n’t really care about crime as a sub­ject, or any of the oth­er things about the genre that I like. For him it’s all an affect­a­tion, or so it seemed to me, and crime films once-removed don’t really do it for me.

  • MovieMan0283 says:

    bill,
    Breathless was the first Godard film I saw, and it left me com­pletely under­whelmed. I’ve grown to appre­ci­ate it since but it still isn’t one of my favor­ite Godards. Godard can be like Russian Roulette and maybe you just keep hit­ting empty cham­bers (assum­ing, of course, that a bul­let is the desired res­ult). He may be my favor­ite dir­ect­or yet I’m about 50/50 on him, at least when it comes to first impres­sions. Venerated clas­sics like Breathless, Vivre sa vie, and Pierrot le Fou did­n’t do much for me when I first saw them. Band of Outsiders, Masculin Feminin, and La Chonoise imme­di­ately blew me away.
    Which Godards have you seeN?

  • MovieMan0283 says:

    Glenn, why “from the vant­age point of 2008”? Hadn’t Godard and Truffaut already fallen out by ’74? Or do you mean that Truffaut and Bunuel are now dead and gone? In which case, agreed.

  • bill says:

    MovieMan, oth­er than “Breathless”, I’ve seen “Weekend”, “Alphaville” and “Contempt”. Of those, I think “Contempt” worked best for me, but only by a slim mar­gin. As I haven’t seen any of the ones you par­tic­u­larly recom­mend, I guess those will have to be next.

  • MovieMan0283 says:

    I always think Band of Outsiders is the best to start with. It’s breezy, simple, and fun but also gives you full fla­vor of Godard’s style and mood. All of the films you men­tioned (except for Breathless) are pretty rig­or­ous in comparison.

  • MovieMan0283 says:

    And, oddly enough I have my own “blind spot” with Truffaut – the one who’s sup­posed to be warm­er, more emo­tion­al, etc. I enjoy his movies, I think he’s a great film­maker but he does­n’t quite per­son­ally con­nect with me on the level a Godard or a Welles does.

  • bill says:

    Even though I’ve only seen four Godard films, my “rela­tion­ship” with him stretches back over ten years (mean­ing that’s roughly when I first watched “Weekend” and “Alphaville”), and in com­par­is­on I’m quite new to Truffaut (don’t ask me why it’s taken me so long to get to him, because I don’t know). So far, though, I’ll take Truffaut over Godard any day, with “The Wild Child” being my favor­ite so far.
    I’m strug­gling with Bunuel, too. I have “Viridiana” com­ing from Netflix tomorrow.

  • tc says:

    I was going to sug­gest that all this site’s reg­u­lars chip in to buy Bill a DVD of La Chinoise, but that’s just sheer per­versity. The truth is, des­pite being an admirer myself (with some recent qualms that mim­ic and were partly triggered by GK’s own), I don’t think it’s unreas­on­able at all to find Godard ali­en­at­ing and/or dated. That said, if Bunuel does­n’t do the trick for you either, Bill, all your SCR fans will be depressed. So come on, “Viridiana” – work your magic, wilya?

  • bill says:

    It’s not that Bunuel does­n’t do it for me, actu­ally. I remem­ber lik­ing, but being befuddled by, “The Exterminating Angel” years ago, and more recently I quite liked “Belle de Jour”. Even more recently than that, though, I was really put off by “The Discreet Charm of the Bourgeoisie”, and “Un Chien Andelou” left me…I don’t know. I did­n’t dis­like it, but it’s not some­thing I can claim to have liked, either. But when I said that I’m strug­gling with Bunuel, I was giv­ing the wrong impression.
    Man, I’d hate for my fans to turn their backs on me for this, just when I’m get­ting ready to go on tour again.

  • MovieMan0283 says:

    bill, I’ve nev­er been huge on Bunuel either. I liked his movies, but they nev­er really had the vis­cer­al effect on me that was inten­ded. For whatever reason.
    By the way, this upside-down com­ments thing is throw­ing me for a loop. I guess it’s a good idea but it’s admit­tedly a little disorienting…

  • B.W. says:

    I’m with you on not really feel­ing Breathless, Bill, though I’ve only seen it once and sev­er­al years ago at that. So far, only two Godards have really done it for me: Contempt and Alphaville. I was blown away by those films, but I’ve been left some degree of cold by all the oth­ers that I’ve seen.

  • B.W. says:

    Good to hear there’s a new DVD of Irma Vep com­ing up. I’ve only seen the film via its hor­rendous old release from Fox Lorber or whatever.

  • Ed Howard says:

    Despite being a huge (and I mean HUGE) admirer of all things Godard, even I am some­what cold on Breathless, which does­n’t do it for me quite the way almost all his oth­er films, with very few excep­tions, do. I think Breathless is a fine film, don’t get me wrong, and it was an aus­pi­cious debut that poin­ted the way for­ward to a lot of what was to come, but Godard got much bet­ter very soon afterward.
    Based on the films you say you’ve seen and not been moved, Bill, I might sug­gest Masculin fem­in­in or Vivre sa vie as logic­al next stops. Those are two of my per­son­al favor­ites, and neither is quite as chilly as Godard could some­times be. And though his 80s films are extremely exper­i­ment­al in form and con­tent, they are also among his most visu­ally sump­tu­ous and emo­tion­ally rich, so Hail Mary and First Name: Carmen might also be good choices. I’ve writ­ten extens­ively about a lot of Godard films if any­one’s interested:
    http://seul-le-cinema.blogspot.com/2007/08/index-of-reviews-by-director.html#g

  • bill says:

    Okay, that’s two for “Masculin Feminin”. I’ll bump it up in the queue. I think I have “First Name: Carmen” in the queue, as well, based on some oth­er com­ment on this site from some time ago.

  • MovieMan0283 says:

    Masculin Feminin is one of my favor­ite films of all time, but I still say start (or rather “re-start”) with Band of Outsiders…not to hype it up too much, and lead to dis­ap­point­ment, of course…
    (Hey, what happened to the upside-down thread? Was I hallucinating?)

  • bill says:

    No, that upside-down thing has happened before. I com­men­ted on it once, and then looked like a crazy per­son when it rever­ted to normal.
    Maybe I’ll do a “Masculin Feminin”/“Band of Outsiders” double feature…

  • burritoboy says:

    Surely this screen cap­ture also recalls the scene in Minnelli’s Some Came Running, where our hero Dave Hirsch pulls the lauded (per­haps too lauded) Absalom, Absalom, Tender is the Night and oth­er par­agons of mod­ern­ist lit­er­at­ure out of his bag.

  • bill says:

    Okay, I watched “Viridiana”. The short ver­sion of my reac­tion is: “I liked it! But what the hell, am I right??” The long ver­sion is here (and if this sort of link­ing isn’t kosh­er, someone should feel free to tell me):
    http://wwwbillblog.blogspot.com/2008/11/viridiana-and-me.html