Deep thoughts

Deep thought

By April 11, 2009No Comments

Remember when Scorsese’s The Last Temptation of Christ came out in 1988, and was roundly—at times hysterically—condemned by a huge bunch of media talk­ing heads and such, none of whom had even bothered to actu­ally see the film in its entirety? Boy, that was kind of irrit­at­ing (not to men­tion thor­oughly intel­lec­tu­ally dis­hon­est), was­n’t it?

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  • Absolutely! It was equally irrit­at­ing when those same people did the same thing to DOGMA.

  • Media talk­ing heads mouth­ing off on sub­jects they are ignor­ant about has become the status quo since then. You can­’t fill the time on 24 hour cable news with informed opinions.
    One could also argue that reli­gious groups start these “con­tro­ver­sies” more out of self-promotion and almost guar­an­teed media cov­er­age at the latest pub­lic out­rage than any par­tic­u­lar prin­ciples. Those pro­test­ers at the Ziegfeld years back sure did­n’t hang around when the tele­vi­sion cam­er­as left.
    If any of those pro­test­ers bothered to watch and under­stand the film, they would actu­ally see a movie that comes to the same con­clu­sions about the story of Jesus Christ that they do. It just takes a dif­fer­ent path to that conclusion.
    I don’t sub­scribe to the notion that reli­gion is above cri­ti­cism or ques­tion­ing. Only a per­son insec­ure in their beliefs would­n’t wel­come a chal­lenge to their way of thinking.

  • markj says:

    Religion is the human response to being alive and hav­ing to die.” Can’t remem­ber who said those words but I agree woth them 100%.

  • Bruce Reid says:

    And remem­ber how on the DVD com­ment­ary track Scorsese, Dafoe, and Cocks lay out their thoughts on the con­tro­versy and the mis­un­der­stand­ings of the crit­ics but only Schrader admit­ted the film was, of course, blas­phem­ous (if not for the reas­ons claimed)?
    Just a late little wrinkle in the nar­rat­ive I always found amus­ing. Obviously not to con­tra­dict your cent­ral, dead-on, point.

  • Arthur S. says:

    Schrader’s approach was very aca­dem­ic and theo­lo­gic­al. What he meant was that in the per­spect­ive of the theo­lo­gic­al con­text of the ori­gin­al gos­pel’s peri­od, the idea of visu­ally rep­res­ent­ing reli­gious con­ceps and ideas was blas­phem­ous as per the first com­mand­ment which for­bade visu­ally rep­res­ent­ing God in any idol or form. Of course that means that means that 90% of Visual Arts and Iconography in Europe is well…blasphemous. And under that tech­nic­al­ity, Scorsese and co. are sin­ners. They’ll be in good com­pany in hell with Dante, Milton, Michelangelo, Da Vinci, Vermeer, Velasquez, Rubens et al.
    The ruck­us over THE LAST TEMPTATION was the first major vic­tory for the Fundamentist fac­tion, they raised a lot of money through their pick­et­ing and man­aged to use that to get fund­ing. They prob­ably made more money out of that film than the box-office grosses.

  • The Chevalier says:

    Under the first com­mand­ment, Jesus is a fraud.

  • MovieMan0283 says:

    markj, there’s a great deal of truth in your state­ment but I don’t think it cov­ers all the bases…mystical exper­i­ence in par­tic­u­lar seems, to me, the true root of all reli­gion rather than pseudo-wishful spec­u­la­tions on an after­life. Did you mean “being alive” and “hav­ing to die” as sep­ar­ate prob­lems, or was the first merely a set-up for the second, which you con­sider the real cause of reli­gious belief?
    Anyway, happy Easter, all.

  • Max says:

    Hell, my old high school drama club was hav­ing prob­lems put­ting on Jesus Christ Superstar. Thoughtful movies about a human Jesus, nay. Movies about Jesus get­ting the shit kicked out of him for 2 hours, yay.
    As long as you stick to the text, you can film any­thing. Now I just want to see Judges 15:15–16: The movie!
    “With an ass’ jawbone
    I have made asses of them
    With an ass’ jawbone
    I have killed a thou­sand men.”

  • Campaspe says:

    Presume they men­tion this on the DVD, but the film­makers also got threats dur­ing post-production. I had to walk past a pick­et line to get in, but they were pretty innoc­u­ous. A friend of mine had a less pleas­ant exper­i­ence. He went to see it and was accos­ted by a woman on his way in. She said, “Why don’t you take the money you are about to spend on this movie and give it to charity…”
    and my friend was about to say to her, “Hey, that’s a pretty reas­on­able line, congrats!”
    But then she fin­ished the thought:
    “…instead of giv­ing it to the blas­phem­ing Jews?”
    And that was the end of that.
    Twenty years is a long time; I won­der if a re-release, or a sim­il­arly themed movie, would gen­er­ate the same opposition?

  • Joe says:

    OK, Glenn, I’m going to make what will prob­ably be an unpop­u­lar admis­sion, but here goes any­way: I’ve been defend­ing Bogdanovich’s “At Long Last Love” for more than 30 years now – and always against the con­des­cend­ing deri­sion of people who haven’t bothered to see it, who only heard about. I’m really annoyed by will­fully ignor­ant assump­tions about unseen films – and the idea of “hearsay” both­ers me even more. Case in point: When “Gypsy” was revived last fall in New York, the Times’ two drama crit­ics went on about how won­der­ful Ethel Merman was in the ori­gin­al. It made me curi­ous. It did some research. Turns out, one of the guys was only five when the show opened in 1959 and the oth­er was born five years after it … closed. Hearsay. Yeesh!

  • Glenn Kenny says:

    @Joe—I saw “At Long Last Love” at Radio City Music Hall on a high-school class trip when I was 15 and recall being rather…befuddled by it. I have been dying to see it again recently, largely inspired by Jacques Rivette’s praise for the film. Let’s peti­tion Fox!

  • Joe says:

    Glenn- ALLL afi­cion­ados make up a small, but exclus­ive club. My friend Carrie Rickey likes it and I remem­ber Ebert lik­ing it way back when. In fact, if you go back and read Canby, you’ll see it’s some­what favor­ably reviewed in the Times. It’s bad repu­ta­tion is an exag­ger­a­tion that’s grown and mutated over the years, exacer­bated by the fact that Fox has not put it out on home enter­tain­ment in any format – not Beta, not VHS, not Laser and cer­tainly not DVD. I per­son­ally think Criterion should tackle it and work with Bogdanovich on it, giv­en that there are about four dif­fer­ent cuts of the film in exist­ence. (Peter kept work­ing on it, and Fox kept cut­ting it.) I always loved that fact that Bogdanovich’s cast of largely non-singers bravely sang all of their songs live (no dub­bing or pre-recording) and that Albert Lantieri’s cho­reo­graphy was loose and inform­al, sort of like the in-between num­bers in the Astaire-Rogers RKO musicals.

  • Campaspe says:

    @Joe – an excel­lent point. The movie that taught me that hearsay could be utterly wrong was Heaven’s Gate.
    And I’d love to see At Long Last Love.

  • Joe says:

    Campaspe-
    Great minds think alike: I always thought “Heaven’s Gate” was ter­ribly under­rated and crim­in­ally maligned. At the time of its release, there were worse movies – much worse – but this one became a scape­goat and a sym­bol for Hollywood excess. I wish all over­done Hollywood spec­tacles were as good.