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Films without continuity errors: towards a master list

By February 21, 2010No Comments

Stranger

Master,” get it? Huh, huh?

For con­text, see post dir­ectly pri­or to this one.

1) La sortie des usines Lumiére, L’arivée d’un train á La Ciotat, etc., etc., Auguste and Louis Lumiere, 1895–96

2) Un chi­en andalou and L’age d’or, Luis Buñuel and Salvador Dali, 1929 and 1930

3) Dodsworth, William Wyler, 1936

4) The entire oeuvre of Stan Brakhage, 1952–2003

5) L’année der­rière derniére a Marienbad, Alain Resnais, 1961

6) Wavelength and La région cent­rale, Michael Snow, 1967 and 1971

7) Jeanne Dielman, 23 Quai du Commerce, 1080 Bruxelles, Chantal Akerman, 1975

8) Stranger Than Paradise, Jim Jarmusch, 1984 (pic­tured)

9) Russian Ark, Alexander Sokurov, 2002

10) The Girlfriend Experience, Steven Soderbergh, 2009

Notes:

2): These Buñuel films are apt demon­stra­tions of the adage, “When you’ve got no con­tinu­ity, you can­’t have any con­tinu­ity errors!”

3): I actu­ally can­’t vouch for the fact that this film con­tains no lapses in con­tinu­ity. Its inclu­sion is merely a ploy to get more people to seek it out and see it.

5): A sim­il­ar prin­ciple to the one applied to 2) applies here. That is, in a pic­ture of such unre­mit­ting irreal­ity, con­tinu­ity as such can­not apply. That said, I also can­not find any­thing in it that would con­sti­tute a sup­posed “error>”

10): Not just because of the spe­cif­ic way it was shot, but because its anti-linear edit­ing pretty much can­cels out the pos­sib­il­ity of a con­ven­tion­al gaffe.

The oth­ers ought to be self-explanatory, I reckon. 

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  • Nathan Duke says:

    Glenn, I’d have to cat­egor­ize your blog entry as a mas­ter piece. You could prob­ably add “My Dinner with Andre” to that list, but just leave off the infam­ous still of a cer­tain someone on Criterion’s DVD that you pos­ted here some time ago.
    On anoth­er note, I’ll try to be spoil­er free on my “Shutter Island” comments:
    There have been com­par­is­ons of “Shutter Island” to “The Shining” and a num­ber of films noir, but I haven’t read a single men­tion any­where of “Memento.” I cer­tainly don’t think Scorsese had that film in mind by any means, but I thought of it imme­di­ately fol­low­ing the rev­el­a­tion of “the secret” at the end of “Island.”
    Without giv­ing away details, I think it’s safe to say both films exam­ine men whose present situ­ations have been cre­ated by past psy­cho­lo­gic­al trau­mas. In “Memento,” we real­ize that Guy Pearce’s char­ac­ter cre­ated his own real­ity through the tattoos.
    Did you see any intent in Teddy’s final com­ment to his part­ner at the end of the film – in oth­er words, a self real­iz­a­tion and then a decision to do some­thing about it? Just curious.

  • Tony Dayoub says:

    I would also float that the the­ory you sug­gest in #2 for the lat­ter half of Lynch’s oeuvre. 🙂

  • Glenn Kenny says:

    @ Nathan Duke: Re Teddy’s final line, yes, I do see quite a bit of intent, and I think it con­tains the pain­ful (actu­al) theme of the film in a nut­shell. One reas­on I admire the film is that, bey­ond want­ing to know “what hap­pens,” I was in fact very moved by DiCaprio’s char­ac­ter, and finally rather gal­van­ized by the “res­ol­u­tion” he reaches.

  • bill says:

    And that “res­ol­u­tion” is not in the nov­el, in case any­one is won­der­ing. I too thought it was a fairly power­ful, and logic­al, con­clu­sion, com­pletely fit­ting with Daniels, and the film that pre­ceded it.
    Speaking of ante­cedents of SHUTTER ISLAND, in the com­ments of my review of the film at my blog (read it today!), someone points out some­thing I feel like a mor­on for not pick­ing up on, a par­tic­u­lar novel/film that could very well have inspired Lehane. And I was already to post it here, until I real­ized it might con­sti­tute a kind of back­door spoil­er. So…er…

  • Glenn Kenny says:

    @ bill: Yes, I had heard that com­par­is­on before I saw it on your com­ments thread. I’m actu­ally gonna bor­row a copy of that film from a pal for a com­par­is­on piece some­where down the line.

  • Bruce Reid says:

    Spoilers for Shutter Island strongly sug­ges­ted, if not stated outright:
    Since it sounds like you’ve read the nov­el more recently (and reward­ingly) than I have, Bill, can I ask a ques­tion? My favor­ite aspect of the movie’s res­ol­u­tion is how, in a way, it flips the twist back upon itself, sug­gest­ing that DiCaprio’s muddled real­ity was essen­tially cor­rect: there are Caligaris and Mabuses spread­ing their fiendish plans in the world, but oper­at­ing with com­plete sanc­tion. Thus the final shot of the light­house; DiCaprio’s des­tin­a­tion all along, where he is in fact to become one of the island’s ghosts.
    Was this irony run­ning through Lehane’s nov­el at all? I don’t recall it (my recol­lec­tion is that it ends like Caligari, in fact, all night­mares wiped away and the sin­is­ter fig­ures revealed as caring staff), but would like to give the nov­el a second read if it is.
    To the post’s top­ic: Rope, Coming Apart, Elephant (Clarke), and Warhol’s Empire (with allow­ances for reel changes) all come to mind.

  • MarkVH says:

    Dodsworth is phenomenal.

  • The Siren says:

    I don’t notice a lot of con­tinu­ity errors in most classic-era movies, although cer­tainly there are some (e.g. Scarlett’s bon­net, which cracks me up every time it appears – I’m like, did she have that thing stuck up her bloom­ers or what?) I did­n’t notice a single one in Dodsworth; Wyler was a per­fec­tion­ist and so was Mate, and the film is so eleg­ant. There is, how­ever, a page at IMDB for “goofs” but they are so minor that I really won­der about the people post­ing them. Hand pos­i­tion? Who the heck gets worked up over hand pos­i­tion? And the scotch level in a glass? I repeat, that’s no way to watch a movie. Especially Dodsworth.
    I very much doubt that “Empire” has con­tinu­ity errors.

  • The Siren says:

    Darn, Bruce beat me to Empire.

  • bill says:

    Glenn – I can­’t wait for that post. Get on it!
    Bruce – I haven’t actu­ally read SHUTTER ISLAND that recently. I read it when it first came out in paper­back. The only reas­on I remem­ber what was­n’t in the book’s finale, as opposed to the film, is because I checked the final page to refresh my memory.
    Continuing with the poten­tial spoilers…
    At the end of the book, night­mares are not washed away. The nov­el ends just before the res­ol­u­tion that Glenn and Nathan refer to. Which means that a par­tic­u­lar fail­ure hap­pens in the nov­el that is only a decep­tion in the film.
    As for the rest of it…no, I don’t recall that sort of irony in the nov­el, and am not sure I neces­sar­ily agree with your read­ing of the film, though I can say how you got there. But in both ver­sions of the story, it’s really the story of one brain – out­side factors, in the cat­egory of char­ac­ters or even really story, have little impact.
    Potential spoil­ers end now.

  • Bruce Reid says:

    Bill: “Potential spoil­ers end now.”
    And start up again.
    Thanks for the response, Bill. I prob­ably over­stated what I took from the end­ing; it did­n’t change the whole ten­or of the film or make it less about “one brain”. Just that the film made DiCaprio’s con­spir­acy fantas­ies echo and fil­ter what was really going on at Shutter Island more than I remembered the book doing.
    The Siren: “Darn, Bruce beat me to Empire.”
    Whereas I very much wish I’d phrased it as you did.

  • John M says:

    Surely, Glenn, there could be a spot there for the films of Tsai Ming Liang?

  • Thomas says:

    Speaking of errors, L’année der­rière would be the Year behind. Whatever that would mean.

  • Glenn Kenny says:

    @ Thomas: Oy. Fixed.
    @ John M: Or Hou Hsiao-hsien, surely.

  • John M says:

    And throw in Meshes of the Afternoon for good measure.

  • Michael Adams says:

    Haven’t seen any Ozu lately, but his films would seem to be good candidates.

  • There’s Alan Schneider/Samuel Beckett’s Film. And Derek Jarman’s Blue has to have more con­tinu­ous con­tinu­ity than most.
    (SO funny, Glenn!)

  • Tom Russell says:

    Actually, Ozu’s con­tinu­ity is full of “errors”, with tea­cups mov­ing from one shot to the next and back again. He viol­ated con­tinu­ity as cas­u­ally, and as genius-ly (?), as he did the 180-degree rule.

  • Zach says:

    Also Warhol’s SLEEP – haven’t seen it, but from what I under­stand, there are no issues with continuity.
    Also in the avant-garde dept: James Benning and Hollis Frampton. Nary an issue in any of their work that I’ve seen.

  • Mike H. says:

    As Tom Russell points out above, con­tinu­ity “errors” are a big part of Ozu’s style. David Bordwell writes about them approv­ingly in his book on Ozu–which is why it sur­prises me that Bordwell cri­ti­cizes Scorsese’s con­tinu­ity. Perhaps it’s because Ozu viol­ates con­tinu­ity pur­pose­fully, even play­fully, where­as it seems that Scorsese and Schoonmaker may just care less about some­thing like the pos­i­tion of a dessert on a table in THE DEPARTED than in cut­ting the scene for rhythm and performance.

  • Mattcornell says:

    Minor quibble with RUSSIAN ARK on this list. If I recall cor­rectly, a girl looks dir­ectly into the cam­era dur­ing the big dance sequence at the end.
    SPOILERS Re: SHUTTER ISLAND, I saw the twist some­where in the 2nd act, and found the long, red-herring filled jour­ney, a tough slog. It reminded me of MEMENTO. Also JACOB’S LADDER. And both iter­a­tions of TV’s THE PRISONER. I kept won­der­ing how any­one who has seen MEMENTO or any late-period Lynch could even be suckered by the setup.
    By the time Kingsley and Ruffalo tedi­ously explained it all, I was claw­ing at the arm­rests. That line about the whole deal being a “cut­ting edge psy­cho­lo­gic­al role­play” is a real howl­er. Really? They go to all this trouble to spare the guy a lobotomy? Fake gun, roughed up pris­on­ers, end­less para­noid expos­i­tion by Jackie Earle Haley & Patricia Clarkson, the whole nine? Sure, plaus­ib­il­ity is over­val­ued by literal-minded audi­ences, pace Hitchcock, but Scorsese’s dra­mat­ic gut­punch depends so much on this con­vo­luted mess adding up to some­thing in the ball­park of believ­able psy­chi­at­ric intervention.

  • Errol Morris put it suc­cinctly: “What about our per­cep­tion of real­ity? (Reality pre­sum­ably has no con­tinu­ity errors.)”
    http://opinionator.blogs.nytimes.com/2008/04/10/play-it-again-sam-re-enactments-part-two/