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Well, why NOT start a John Cale appreciation thread?

By August 12, 2010No Comments

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Cale, in his auto­bi­o­graphy What’s Welsh For Zen: “My first appear­ance on an Island record­ing was on an LP made from a con­cert which took place at London’s now defunct Rainbow Theatre on 1 June 1974; the date became the album’s title. I was actu­ally one-fourth of the fea­tured band—the oth­ers were the former Soft Machine gui­tar­ist Kevin Ayers, who had invited every­one to guest at what star­ted at his own con­cert, the former Roxy Music musi­cian Brian Eno, and Nico…This was the first time I had gone on stage on my own. And to me it was so import­ant it was nerve-racking…The night before the con­cert Kevin and [Cale’s then wife] Cindy got togeth­er. That did it for me. She lied about it, but in the end I was able to go to Kevin and say, ‘Look, as a gen­tle­man, tell me, did such and such hap­pen?’ Kevin said, ‘Yes.’ I went back to Cindy and said ‘Look, you fuck!’ and things just got worse and worse.”

Some Cale watch­ers sug­gest that the anec­dote explains the inter­est­ing looks being exchanged between Cale and Ayers on the cov­er of the con­cert album; the pho­tos were taken in the Rainbow’s foy­er, right before the show.

Among Cale’s oth­er achieve­ments is a terse score for Jonathan Demme’s 1974 Caged Heat, by the way.

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  • FBC! says:

    and then Cale wrote the song Guts: “the bug­ger in short sleeves fucked my wife”

  • Kent Jones says:

    Evelyn, I under­stand that John Cage and Merce Cunningham were big fans of THE GOODBYE GIRL.
    Your com­ments about Lou Reed are inter­est­ing. A couple of hours ago I decided to put on my CD of SET THE TWILIGHT REELING and see if “NYC Man” still soun­ded good. It did­n’t. The last one I remem­ber lik­ing was NEW SENSATIONS, but I have no desire to go back and listen to it. I liked the Quine records because the band was good (there was a video made of their Bottom Line show, in which a 20-year old ver­sion of yours truly crops up in a few shots) but I nev­er have the urge to listen to those either. I think I’d have to go all the way back to “Coney Island Baby” to find some­thing I liked, but that would prob­ably sound too lan­guor­ously pre­ten­tious. Never should’ve left the band.
    Glenn, I haven’t listened to JUNE 1, 1974 in ages. Is it any good? Eno’s one of those guys who nev­er really added up live, although I have to admit that I like “Rongwrong” on the 801 Live record. But I think he went back and double-tracked himself.
    I don’t remem­ber the CAGED HEAT score. Cale did a very good, sub­dued and somber score for PARIS S’EVEILLE, Olivier Assayas’ third movie. But as much as I like LA NAISSANCE DE L’AMOUR, I’m not over the moon about his solo piano score.
    Of course, who can for­get “Big Apple Express,” the final track on STAINLESS GAMELAN, with vocals by the New York Fire Department?

  • joel_gordon says:

    I was plugged into the iTunes a few minutes before read­ing this post, and “Dirty Ass Rock & Roll” came on, which always makes me happy. Of course, I’m always listen­ing to a Feelies song when Glenn makes one of his many Feelies ref­er­ences, so I guess I’m not shocked by the coin­cid­ence. No love for MAGIC & LOSS, Evelyn?

  • Paul says:

    I’m still excited by the rev­el­a­tion that Church of Anthrax’s title track is the miss­ing link between blax­ploit­a­tion soundtracks and Krautrock that I always fan­tas­ised about but nev­er really believed could exist.

  • ptatleriv says:

    I always love this album in the­ory rather than prac­tice (kind of like the Eno DALI’S CAR live set). It’s three of my favor­ite artists (and Nico) per­form­ing some of my favor­ite songs (“Shouting in a Bucket Blues” – YOWZA). Maybe it’s owing to the qual­ity of the record­ing, but it always feels a little flat or rote when I spin it.
    According to the inter­net, Cale per­formed “Gun” dur­ing this set but it did­n’t make the cut. How could that have missed?!

  • Glenn Kenny says:

    @ Kent: My VERY deep affec­tion for the “June 1” record prob­ably has more to do with adoles­cent nos­tal­gia than actu­al qual­ity, but I do enjoy the thing to this day when it pops up on the iPod or what­not. Eno’s life-without-Fripp arrange­ment of “Baby’s On Fire” is pretty nifty, the Cale “Heartbreak” is the Cale “Heartbreak,” and Ayers’ num­bers have a nice ram­shackle boho rock qual­ity, plus gui­tar solos from Patto’s Ollie Halsall, who was pretty dazzling. So. Mostly fun, not essen­tial. By my lights.

  • Sal C says:

    Kent, I’m not all that famil­i­ar with Cale’s score for LA NAISSANCE DE L’AMOUR (or the Assayas film), but I do love his solo score for LE VENT DE LA NUIT.
    And now to pull out that bootleg DVD of Lou Reed Live at the Bottom Line. Quine was simply amaz­ing if I remem­ber cor­rectly. On ‘Kill Your Sons’ his part seems to con­sist of rak­ing his right hand across the strings while not fin­ger­ing a single fret with his left. No gui­tar play­er has ever looked cooler.

  • Chris O. says:

    Do you think he’s tak­ing the piss out of Lou Reed on the cov­er of “Slow Dazzle”? He’s dressed like him and cov­er­ing his ears.
    @joel: Despite not hav­ing listened to “Magic & Loss” in fif­teen years, I loved it and am curi­ous if it holds up. I don’t know what “seeing-eye chocol­ate” is, but I love that term (from “What’s Good” which I think is also on the UNTIL THE END OF THE WORLD soundtrack along with “Sleeping In The Devil’s Bed”, which I also love, from fre­quent Eno col­lab­or­at­or Daniel Lanois).

  • Kent Jones says:

    Sal C, I haven’t looked at LE VENT DE LA NUIT in quite a while – a little too much long­ing for obli­vi­on in that one for me – but I’m sure the score is good. Cale also did live accom­pani­ment at screen­ings of THE UNKNOWN (it seems like every­one has done live accom­pani­ment at screen­ings of THE UNKNOWN), but I nev­er man­aged to catch it.
    I like quite a bit of Wrong Way Up, espe­cially “Footsteps” and “Crime in the Desert.”
    I’d for­got­ten all about Magic and Loss. At the time, it seemed like a good album in the­ory, maybe less in actu­al fact. I should give it anoth­er listen. Back in the day, I did love Reed’s ver­sion of “September Song” from the Rob Wasserman album.
    Glenn, how much of the “Baby’s On Fire” solo did Paul Rudolph play?

  • Glenn Kenny says:

    @ Kent: Not a lot, I don’t think, and it’s hard to really say. That might be him doing that little low-register arabesque fig­ure around the sheets of Fripp noise in the lat­ter part of the solo. But I sus­pect his gui­tar con­tri­bu­tion to the song is mostly the ambi­ent (such as it is) buzz. All the stuff that sounds like Fripp—it’s the same dis­tor­tion he uses on Bowie’s “Heroes,” and all over a lot of “Scary Monsters”— is DEFINITELY Fripp!

  • Kent Jones says:

    My own favor­ite Fripp “solo” is on “St. Elmo’s Fire.” I also love Schumacher’s mise-en-scène.
    Somewhere out there lurks a con­spir­acy the­ory that Rudolph played most of “Baby’s On Fire.” The motiv­a­tion for con­ceal­ing the full extent of his par­ti­cip­a­tion remains obscure.
    Actually, apart from the col­lec­tion of doodles they released a couple of years ago, I really love the Fripp/Eno records. Trolling around the inter­net a few months back, I found a great bootleg of one of their con­certs, with “Peter’s Clock” and “Oaken Gates” in addi­tion to “Swastika Girls,” “Wind on Water,” etc. It’s called AIR STRUCTURES. Of course, you’re prob­ably way ahead of me there. If you’re not ahead of me, it’s worth seek­ing out.

  • J.M. says:

    Cale’s score for “The Unknown” is avail­able on cd:
    http://www.amazon.com/John-Cale/dp/B00000JA88
    It’s on the same label (Crepuscule) as the Garrel & Assayas scores; the brief liner notes are by former Eastman House film cur­at­or Paolo Cherchi-Usai.
    I haven’t listened to it in years so I can­’t really com­ment on it (and I nev­er tried syncing it up to the film), but I recall the key­board sounds being rather sim­il­ar to his score for the Spanish film “Antardida”.
    Kent, if you enjoyed “Hobosapiens” you should check out the “5 Tracks” e.p. It’s in much the same vein, but even stronger, imo (and I say this as a fan of “Hobosapiens”).
    re: the June 1 album: no love for “Driving me Backwards”? I love the addi­tion of Cale’s viola.

  • haice says:

    Forever dis­s­a­poin­ted the planned 1977 remake of ALPHAVILLE nev­er mater­i­al­ized with Debbie Harry as Natasha von Braun and Robert Fripp play­ing Lemmy Caution by way of Gurdieff.

  • joel_gordon says:

    Chris: I haven’t listened to Magic & Loss in years. But I had a great emo­tion­al con­nec­tion to it when I was in high school–quoted it in my year­book pro­file and everything–so that nev­er bodes well for future appre­ci­ation. I’ll give anoth­er listen soon and report back.

  • Ah, my kinda thread…
    Working back­wards (pun inten­ded), I’m with haice on lament­ing the non Fripp/Harry ALPHAVILLE. They could pull off a GERMAN YEAR ZERO remake now, though.
    Kent, AIR STRUCTURES is THE FE bootleg, fea­tur­ing their ’75 Olympia gig a Paris. I love the lon­gueurs on it as much as the music – e.g. when the French M.C. requests the audi­ence nieth­er smoke nor take pho­tos, as reques­ted by “Monsieur Fripp”. You may notice that the loop for “Wind Over Water” on EVENING STAR is what was per­formed in that gig, albeit played back­wards. I trust you’ve heard FE’s most recent EQUITORIAL STARS – it’s a pretty simple set-up, Fripp solo­ing over Eno-scapes, but those ‘scapes are some of Eno’s very best, very much in the ball­park of his career-best Ambient 4 – ON LAND stuff. Quite lovely. The out­takes, less so. But our aging prog pion­eers still got game in the 21st.
    Had no idea about Cale’s soundtrack work, apart from obvi­ous things like WORDS FOR THE DYING and his haunt­ing solo ver­sion of “Frozen Warnings” to close out NICO ICON. But What’s Welsh For Zen has to be one of the great rock auto­bi­os of all time, even if it sure seems as though Cale is dis­missive of just about every pro­ject with which he’s been asso­ci­ated, up to and includ­ing the under­whelm­ing WRONG WAY UP w/ Eno. In many import­ant respects, and as rein­forced by Cale’s recount­ing, LaMonte Young remains my push­er of choice.
    Finally, to my ears Church of Anthrax sounds less like any­thing resem­bling blax­ploit­a­tion or Krautrock than like two hop­head con­tem­por­ar­ies well-um-prepared to noodle on piano &c. on Columbia Records’ dime. Rather wish it was on the level of these giants’ oth­er solo work.

  • Kent Jones says:

    J.M., in fact I think of HOBOSAPIENS (thanks for the remind­er of the title) and 5 TRACKS as one. They came from the same ses­sions, correct?
    James, I too love the French MC. Eno told a story about his par­ents com­ing to see one of those per­form­ances with Fripp, and greet­ing him back stage after the show with, “Cor, that was LOUD, boy!” Yes, I’m really fond of THE EQUATORIAL STARS – haunt­ing, lovely spidery music. It’s THE COTSWOLD GNOMES that I find com­pletely under­whelm­ing, about as under­whelm­ing as that ridicu­lous record Eno and Byrne released last year or whenev­er it was. On the oth­er hand, I’m fond of Eno’s last solo album, the title track in par­tic­u­lar. And that BBC doc­u­ment­ary about him is very good. I know what you mean about WRONG WAY UP, but it’s not a bad record. Personally, I wish Eno would stop build­ing his own rhythm tracks and start work­ing with real drum­mers again, but I don’t see that hap­pen­ing. I under­stand that Cale and Tony Conrad would love to see the stuff they did with La Monte Young released to the gen­er­al pub­lic. Young alloww it to be played at the Dia space, right?

  • Evelyn Roak says:

    The Trio TV sta­tion (does it even still exist?)–or was it Ovation (not sure)? Used to show said Bottom Line show from time to time. Was always won­der­ful to stumble upon and not just for Robert Quine look­ing a hun­dred times cool­er than Lou Reed and giv­ing the main man a les­son in aging grace­fully. Lose the leath­er, Lou.
    There are good moments and records in Lou Reed’s last 30 years of records but there is a load of crap too and the dis­tinc­tion with Cale is that the good and bad seem to drift apart in exe­cu­tion, not idea. Cale’s bad records still inform his good ones and vice versa. Reed’s most inter­est­ing moves of late seem to be reviv­ing Berlin and updat­ing Metal Machine Music.
    Got to agree with Kent that for just how good The Birth Of Love is the score leaves some­thing to be desired. A little too much ham­mer­ing home the point. Garrel is one of my abso­lute favor­ite film­makers but in the last 20 years the one thing that rankles at time is his scores (at times only. Some films scores are great). Particularly com­ing from the guy who formed Les Jeunes Rebelles for the excel­lent psych-jams of Le Lit de la Vierge and the Nico/Cale work of Desertshore for La Cicatrice Interieure (Finally was able to make mp3’s of those Les Jeunes Rebelles jams recently. Excellent.).
    I am quite dis­ap­poin­ted that the online ver­sion of the Meatus Murder album “More Songs About Balling and Food” (formerly http://www.fetusfervor.info) is cur­rently down because, really, right now we should all be listen­ing to the par­ody (Weird Al, etc) of Baby’s On Fire (“Maybe McGwire”) which has been turned into an explan­a­tion of McGwire, the A’s and ‘roids (I think Meatus’ par­ody of Belle And Sebastian’s “Get Me Away From Here I’m Dying” which has become “Oh Give Me a Rave from Jeffrey Lyons” would be appre­ci­ated as well….amongst oth­ers. The whole album is bril­liant) http://siltblog.blogspot.com/2006/03/would-you-eat-moon-if-it-were-made.html is one of the few writeups turn­ing up online these days.

  • Kent Jones says:

    Evelyn, I gave BLACK ACETATE only about half a listen and was­n’t too impressed. Is it any good?
    I do remem­ber lik­ing Barney Wilen’s score for LE COEUR FANTOME by Garrel, but I haven’t seen the film in ages.

  • Evelyn Roak says:

    Kent, nev­er really listened to it, truth be told. Just went over to Amazon and gave a listen to some snip­pets. Cursory thoughts (not that they amount to much)? A little Waits‑y on a song or two, eh? Some not so good choices in gui­tar sounds, etc. Interest piqued a little though not enough to rush out and buy it. The most enter­tain­ing part of the page is the Amazon product description.
    I do like the score to Regular Lovers, chock that one up in the win column. Garrel is often best when going without, or less of, a score. His nat­ur­al sound record­ing is usu­ally excel­lent and has an audio-tactile qual­ity that works won­der­fully with his images. Similarly he has always used silence bril­liantly and some­times would be bet­ter to run with that.
    Le Vent de la Nuit has always had me won­der­ing, giv­en the auto­bi­o­graph­ic­al nature of his films, wheth­er Garrel him­self has owned/driven around Europe in a Porsche. Important ques­tions these are…

  • For a while there, Reed and Cale were neck-and-neck, each releas­ing one great album after anoth­er. But after the last-minute wakeup of STREET HASSLE (a glor­i­ously obnox­ious record), Reed just sorta trailed off into mid­dling fame and mid­dling records, while Cale kept mak­ing great songs in total obscur­ity. Never had a hit like Lou, and nev­er got half as fam­ous, and nev­er banged Laurie Anderson (ah!), but still had one hell of a career.
    Has any­one seen the ter­rif­ic con­cert film of SONGS FOR DRELLA, dir­ec­ted by the great cine­ma­to­graph­er Ed Lachman? I ori­gin­ally caught it at BAM’s Lachman trib­ute, but most of it’s now on YouTube. Besides being a ter­rif­ic song cycle, it’s fas­cin­at­ing to watch Reed and Cale togeth­er on stage (but almost always sep­ar­ated in the frame), still full of com­pet­it­ive mutu­al loath­ing, still very good for each oth­er­’s work.

  • Kent Jones says:

    Evelyn, I know (and love) Garrel, and I’m fairly cer­tain that he does not drive a Porsche these days, although he rode through Paris dur­ing May ’68 in Godard’s red Ferrari (I think it was a Ferrari). I remem­ber the first time we met, in Vienna in the mid-90s at the film fest­iv­al. He and Monte Hellman ran into each oth­er, Monte asked him how he was doing, and he looked at a car parked on the street and said, “I made my last film for a little less than the value of that car.”

  • Evelyn Roak says:

    Thank you Kent for the info and amus­ing anec­dote. Two great film­makers who have done more with less to great res­ults. Now, I nev­er really believed Garrel was cruis­ing around like that, shoot­ing up with Xavior Beauvois but the auto­bi­o­graph­ic­al ele­ment always made for a funny image in my mind (the Porsche part).
    The amaz­ingly rare screen­ing of L’ENFANT SECRET (without hyper­bole one of the greatest movies I’ve ever seen) at MoMA a few years ago was actu­ally fol­lowed by Beauvois’ DON’T FORGET THAT YOU’RE GOING TO DIE (which has a few scenes shot by Garrel I believe ((shot con­cur­rently with LE VENT DE LA NUIT? They seem to share, besides pro­duc­tion com­pany, a few loc­a­tions. Hmm))), also quite good, though not the most uplift­ing double bill. Anyone seen Beauvois’ new film? Did well at Cannes. Hopefully will make it here soon­er rather than later.
    As for Lou Reed thoughts that occured to me the oth­er day re: lit­er­ary albums: I’ll take Randy Newman’s Faust over Reed’s The Raven eight days a week.

  • Chris O. says:

    Not to hijack, but speak­ing of Robert Fripp… by way of Nick Cave…
    http://pitchfork.com/news/39754-listen-grinderman-super-heathen-child-featuring-robert-fripp/

  • Glenn Kenny says:

    @ Chris O.: Hey, great. Between this and Kanye sampling “21st Century Schizoid Man,” this could her­ald anoth­er quasi-mainstream phase of Fripp bring­ing the muthafuckin’ noise… (As in the late ’70s and early ’80s, back­ing Bowie, Blondie, Gabriel, et. al.)

  • Kent Jones says:

    Evelyn, Garrel dropped into the Beauvois set in Rome and dir­ec­ted a couple of scenes. I did­n’t care for that movie.
    I remem­ber vis­it­ing the set of LE VENT DE LA NUIT. A depress­ing movie, but Garrel was hav­ing a great time.
    Fripp’s web­site is worth a vis­it: http://www.dgmlive.com/
    Glenn, let’s not for­get his two Roche records. I find myself listen­ing to them every few months or so.