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By December 7, 2010No Comments

Can Can SCR

WHAT is an award?” asked Dave Thomas as Richard Harris in an SCTV sketch I’m fond of. (What SCTV sketch am I not fond of, I some­times won­der.) In today’s Foreign Blu-ray Report, par­tially about this INCREDIBLE French disc of Renoir’s French Cancan, I ask “WHAT is an auteur?” At The Daily Notebook, which I sup­posed once asked the same ques­tion itself, maybe…

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  • Joseph Neff says:

    Outstanding piece, Glenn. I caught this on a double bill with 8 1/2 around six years ago. A great night and quite a study in con­trasts, accen­tu­ated by the fact that CANCAN’s print was as clean as the Fellini was­n’t. I was sur­prised when every­one in my party expressed clear pref­er­ence for the Renoir. After a bit of thought I acknow­ledged that, on that night at least, I did too.

  • Partisan says:

    So is an auteur a dir­ect­or who only makes really good films that have a con­sist­ent point of view? Great, that leaves us with…two. Bresson and Tarkovsky, I’d reckon.”
    So which movie are we knock­ing off Dreyer for? And are we not includ­ing Kubrick for his first two movies and “Spartacus,” or for most or all of his oth­er ten movies?

  • Asher says:

    Of course, not every auteur imbues each of his films with his sens­ib­il­ity. And while you could say that Carol Reed just stopped being an auteur one day, or that Boetticher did­n’t quite become an auteur until a cer­tain point in his career, some dir­ect­ors’ auteur­ism wanes and ebbs and wanes again. I sus­pect an auteur is just a dir­ect­or who’s pro­duced a crit­ic­al mass (or share) of per­son­al work.

  • david hare says:

    Glenn the Gaumont Cancan Bluray is my disc of the year (pos­sibly the dec­ade) and the three strip digit­al resor­a­tion which the two guys from Lab Éclair and Gaumont describe in the 5 minute resto extra (unsubtitled)is every bit as awe­some as the three strip resto for Red Shoes two years ago. I believe we’ve arrived at a point in the tech­no­c­logy where new digit­al and pho­to­chem­ic­al pro­cessing can actu­ally recre­ate an image that’s bet­ter than even the best ori­gin­al Technicolor.
    I remem­ber IB prints of Cancan from the late 60s and they were won­der­ful but this new print simply wipes out every pre­vi­ous view­ing I’ve ever had (and there were many.) The lossless mono audio on this is also com­pletely staggering.
    And this is Renoir’s greatest 50s pic­ture. Cuts or no cuts.

  • bemo says:

    Kenny: “So is an auteur a dir­ect­or who only makes really good films that have a con­sist­ent point of view? Great, that leaves us with…two. Bresson and Tarkovsky, I’d reckon.”
    Partisan: “So which movie are we knock­ing off Dreyer for? And are we not includ­ing Kubrick for his first two movies and “Spartacus,” or for most or all of his oth­er ten movies?”
    Good being object­ive, ‘n all, where does this leave The Bay, who has a con­sist­ent point of view?

  • Glenn Kenny says:

    @ Bemo: Very funny. In any event, the argu­ment I make with respect to con­sist­ent point of view is almost imme­di­ately impli­citly rejec­ted, so I don’t know why I’m being taken to task for it. The per­spect­ives expressed in the piece can of course only be taken as grasp­ings towards a defin­i­tion. I’m afraid that as long as people are debat­ing movies and movie­makers, the best we’re going to get…or maybe the most we’re going to all be able to agree on…is that what an auteur is will always be defined along the same lines as Potter Stewart’s fam­ous defin­i­tion of por­no­graphy, that is, “I know it when I see it.” And of course even with that, espe­cially with that, there’s room for wig­gling, debate, and such. Including the ques­tion of auteur­ist mojo always being a pos­it­ive virtue…

  • nrh says:

    Jacques Rivette says:
    “I’m going to make more enemies…actually the same enemies, since the people who like Minnelli usu­ally like Mankiewicz, too. Minnelli is regarded as a great dir­ect­or thanks to the slack­en­ing of the “poli­tique des auteurs.” For François, Jean-Luc and me, the poli­tique con­sisted of say­ing that there were only a few film­makers who mer­ited con­sid­er­a­tion as auteurs, in the same sense as Balzac or Molière. One play by Molière might be less good than anoth­er, but it is vital and excit­ing in rela­tion to the entire oeuvre. This is true of Renoir, Hitchcock, Lang, Ford, Dreyer, Mizoguchi, Sirk, Ozu… But it’s not true of all film­makers. Is it true of Minnelli, Walsh or Cukor? I don’t think so. They shot the scripts that the stu­dio assigned them to, with vary­ing levels of interest. Now, in the case of Preminger, where the dir­ec­tion is everything, the poli­tique works. As for Walsh, whenev­er he was intensely inter­ested in the story or the act­ors, he became an auteur – and in many oth­er cases, he did­n’t. In Minnelli’s case, he was metic­u­lous with the sets, the spaces, the light…but how much did he work with the act­ors? I loved Some Came Running (1958) when it came out, just like every­body else, but when I saw it again ten years ago I was taken aback: three great act­ors and they’re work­ing in a void, with no one watch­ing them or listen­ing to them from behind the camera.”
    From:
    http://archive.sensesofcinema.com/contents/01/16/rivette.html

  • So here’s a ques­tion, Glenn—do you prefer com­ments show­ing up here, or at Mubi? MZS has urged FB com­menters to take their dis­cus­sions to Salon, both to elev­ate the tone over there and to show the edit­ors that there’s interest. Do you sim­il­arly want us to comment/discuss/argue over there for the sake of editor-impressing, or is it a mat­ter of indif­fer­ence to you?
    P.S.: Regarding Bemo, I think that’s what hap­pens when you con­fuse “auteur” with “maker of good movies”. One can make good movies without hav­ing a very con­sist­ent per­spect­ive (Carol Reed), and one can have a very con­sist­ent per­spect­ive while mak­ing one bad movie after anoth­er (most fam­ously Ed Wood, but Michael Bay and Tony Scott too, among many others).

  • Glenn Kenny says:

    @ Fuzzy: I like to encour­age com­ments at MUBI, sure, but I don’t have a pref­er­ence when it comes down to it, myself, nor have I received any instruc­tions or sug­ges­tions on the mat­ter. So it’s all the same to me, really.

  • Tom Block says:

    >this is Renoir’s greatest 50s picture
    Having just rewatched “The River” I’ve gotta chime in here and say “NUH-UHHH!”

  • lazarus says:

    Nrh, I’ve read that whole Rivette inter­view before, and it’s won­der­fully catty and times and also endear­ing I’m terms of how much of a film lov­er the man still is (or was ten years ago, at least). I find it odd that the line he draws between Walsh and Preminger on one hand, and Minnelli on the oth­er is one of work with the act­ors, instead of how he’s using his images to for­ward whatever per­pect­ive he has on the mater­i­al. I think it’s a little reduct­ive to claim that Minnelli’s primary con­sid­er­a­tion was with sets and design, and while all of his films may not seem like auteur­ist state­ments (the man was as dis­missive of his decisions and inten­tions to inter­view­ers as the cagey John Ford), a good num­ber of them do, going all the way up to Nina a.k.a. A Matter of Time (a crim­in­ally unavail­able title save for old VHS copies).

  • edo says:

    More than a little reduct­ive, I think… Reading that inter­view always bright­ens my day, espe­cially when he gets to the bit about Hou Hsiao-hsien being the asi­an James Cameron. *sigh*

  • Asher says:

    I always find that quote a real head-scratcher. I don’t think of 50s Hitchcock or 50s Lang doing a great deal of “work” with the act­ors – espe­cially 50s Lang, unless the work he did was to make Dana Andrews as flat and affect­less as pos­sible. Not that I’m com­plain­ing, it works for those films, but they’re not about per­form­ance. On the oth­er hand, Cukor, though obvi­ously engaged more by some pro­jects than oth­ers, obvi­ously did won­der­ful work with act­ors – and SOME CAME RUNNING, after all, is one of the corner­stones on which any repu­ta­tion Sinatra and Martin have for being great act­ors rest, espe­cially Sinatra, so per­haps Minnelli had some­thing to do with it. The only point in the film where I can even begin to see what Rivette’s talk­ing about is the con­front­a­tion in the classroom between Hyer and MacLaine, where the two do seem sus­pen­ded in a bit of a shot/reverse shot void. Everywhere else I think Minnelli’s won­der­fully sens­it­ive to the per­form­ances – without turn­ing his dir­ec­tion into a mere vehicle for ren­der­ing those performances.

  • lazarus says:

    Well that’s not as good as the part when he calls Spielberg an asshole and claims that Titanic was a suc­cess because “plump, slov­enly girls” saw them­selves in Kate Winslet. MEOW!

  • david hare says:

    Tom, you’re per­fectly right – and I think both the River and Cancan are at the pin­nacle of Renoir’s work. But I guess I mean Renoir’s post American films rather than just “50s films”. The River is really an American pic­ture made in India.
    Anyway I don’t think Cancan has ever really had its due, partly because of the lousy faded Eastman prints in cir­cu­la­tion for the last 30 plus years. Part of the whole essence of the movie is the aston­ish­ing col­or and those ruin­ous prints, even the thin, pasty bland Criterion DVD are a pale shad­ow of the first IBs. The Gaumont brings it roar­ing back to life.
    I would love to see a BD of The River one day – the BFI res­tor­a­tion is very beau­ti­ful and worth the upgrade to Blu.

  • A MATTER OF TIME is air­ing on TCM next Tuesday night (12÷14). Maybe it’ll be a decent print.

  • Great review, Glenn. This is one of my favor­ite discs of the year.
    I review it, along with Gaumont’s some­what less suc­cess­ful release of A Man Escaped, at my blog: http://whitecitycinema.com/2010/11/22/sacre-blu/