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The great Michel Piccoli is the sole bright spot in Nanni Moretti’s hor­ribly muddled and dribbly Vatican fable We Have A Pope, which I com­plain about at great­er length for MSN Movies

I saw the oth­er day that Criticwire had a post about “cine­mat­ic blind spots,” which seemed kind of inter­est­ing as a concept. I took “blind spot” to mean some­thing a giv­en crit­ic did­n’t actu­ally get, could­n’t find a viable access to, or some­thing. I wondered if what I exper­i­ence in rela­tion to Moretti is a blind spot. His films are recieved by many crit­ics with a great deal of enthu­si­asm, and of the three films by him I’ve seen, The Son’s Room, The Caiman, and now, We Have A Pope, I think each sub­sequent one is even worse than the oth­er, and I did­n’t think The Son’s Room was that great to begin with. But this isn’t a blind spot in terms of being unable to access Moretti’s film’s; I think I “get” them just fine. I just don’t think they’re any GOOD, and when I read oth­er accounts of them that do advoc­ate in their favor, I’m mys­ti­fied, because whatever the oth­er crit­ic is prais­ing, I’ve nev­er actu­ally seen it on screen. I remem­ber The Caiman in par­tic­u­lar seem­ing kind of promising—hard to screw up with some­thing like Berlusconi as your subject—and then evan­es­cing into a mist of bland post­mod­ern­ism and pro forma film­maker self-involvement. So why this stuff gets praised, let alone even min­im­ally impor­ted to the States…that’s my blind spot.

As it happened, though, what the Criticwire post meant by “blind spots,” were films the sur­veyed crit­ics had­n’t actu­ally seen, and were ashamed of hav­ing not seen, and stuff. Which is, as far as I’m con­cerned, a less inter­est­ing top­ic, because, really, do you hon­estly believe that if,say,  Christy Lemire finally sits in front of The Searchers, it’s gonna rock her world to the extent that it’ll actu­ally change her way of see­ing and writ­ing? No.

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  • Steve says:

    From the sample of Moretti films I’ve seen (ECCE BOMBO, SWEET DREAMS, PALOMBELLA ROSSA, CARO DIARIO, THE SON’S ROOM, THE CAIMAN & WE HAVE A POPE), I’d say that Moretti peaked with PALOMBELLA ROSSA & CARO DIARIO and star­ted going down­hill with THE SON’S ROOM. The reas­ons why he’s worth tak­ing ser­i­ously have gradu­ally dis­sip­ated over the past three films, although I’d like to read CAHIERS DU CINEMA’s defense of choos­ing WE HAVE A POPE as its favor­ite film of 2011. He star­ted as a politi­cized ana­logue to Albert Brooks, although in intro­du­cing ECCE BOMBO at the IFC Center last week, Moretti emphas­ized that he was sat­ir­iz­ing a very small group of Roman ultra-leftist youth. He’s nev­er been par­tic­u­larly gif­ted with nar­rat­ive, a flaw that’s become increas­ingly glar­ing in the past three films. But I would give the early films a chance if a Moretti ret­ro­spect­ive rolls around again. (I’d love to see an Eclipse box of them.)

  • LexG says:

    My blind spot is when I hear Nannie Moretti, I always think they mean Nino Manfredi, some Giancarlo Giannini-meets-Topol look­ing swingin’ ’70s Italian com­edy doo­fus I only know of because some crazy hen film pro­fess­or made us watch some­thing called “Bread and Chocolate” claim­ing it was the most import­ant piece of comed­ic film social com­ment­ary every put to film… even though I’ve nev­er once heard any­one, any­where, men­tion it on a film blog or in MUBI type circles.
    Is that any­body any­one cares about, or was this film pro­fess­or a loon?
    I kinda blame AV Club’s “Better Late Than Never” for this whole post-TWOP non­pro­fes­sion­al non-criticism-criticism deal where every caf­fein­ated geek does this meta-criticism where they can spin a whole fuck­ing art­icle about “Gee, I haven’t seen Ghostbusters yet… wow, now I’ve seen Ghostbusters… it was okay, I guess.”
    I mean, you come to any lauded movie at age 25 or 35 or 45 for the first time, it’s very rare that one will be able to put aside that smug chip on the shoulder that says “Thrill me” like Tom Atkins in “Night of the Creeps.” As said about Lemire and “The Searchers” above, it’s inev­it­able… if I’ve put off “Rio Bravo” for 39 years, I’m more than likely not gonna come up evan­gel­iz­ing about it if it’s grump­ily watched on DVD while doing my laun­dry just to check it off some mean­ing­less list.
    But CHRIST, how could James Rocchi have nev­er seen “The Shining”? That’s the weird not-so-new dir­ec­tion of film cri­ti­cism; I say this ALL the time, but can you ima­gine a SPORTS WRITER spin­ning whole SMUG art­icles like, “Nope, nev­er watched a base­ball game”? Why are movies the ONE THING where every­one thinks their ill-informed jerkoff opin­ion is worth receiv­ing money for?

  • I’ve seen two Moretti films, THE SON’S ROOM and CARO DIARIO. Both times I was driv­en by Cannes-completism, which has since abated. They both made me want to self-harm.

  • Also, and I did­n’t think the space-time con­tinuüm would have per­mit­ted me to say this, but LexG is spot on.

  • Bettencourt says:

    I’m glad I’m not the only one who was under­whelmed by THE SON’S ROOM, the only Moretti film I’ve seen. I had no idea what all the fuss was about, and Moretti’s inex­press­ive per­form­ance is pretty much all I remem­ber from it.

  • Oliver_C says:

    I say this ALL the time, but can you ima­gine a SPORTS WRITER spin­ning whole SMUG art­icles like, “Nope, nev­er watched a base­ball game”?’
    Why not? It works for David “Cinema is a Shallow Medium” Thompson.

  • Oliver_C says:

    (Whoops, no p in Thomson.)

  • lipranzer says:

    I actu­ally liked THE SON’S ROOM – though it does pale in com­par­is­on to the some­what sim­il­ar IN THE BEDROOM – but found CARO DIARIO and the parts of APRILE I saw fairly mediocre, and this just looks silly. The only reas­on this soun­ded even mod­er­ately inter­est­ing was Piccoli.

  • Matt says:

    @LexG: I know what you mean, but it hon­estly would­n’t sur­prise me. Go have a spin through the archives of Fire Joe Morgan – sports writers have ZERO com­punc­tion about wear­ing their will­ful ignor­ance as a badge of honor.

  • Josh Z says:

    I gave up on Moretti with The Son’s Room, which had abso­lutely noth­ing insight­ful to say about the griev­ing pro­cess bey­ond, “Gee, would­n’t it be sad to lose a child?” Well golly, I sure guess it would, huh?
    Lifetime movies have more depth than that film. That it some­how won at Cannes still per­plexes me. Certainly, some awful films have won at Cannes over the years, but I’m hard-pressed to think of any as thor­oughly dis­in­ter­est­ing on every level as that one.

  • Bilge Ebiri says:

    I actu­ally like Moretti a great deal, though I do think the earli­er stuff (like PALOMBELLA ROSA and CARO DIARIO) is gen­er­ally bet­ter. (I too did­n’t care for THE SON’S ROOM all that much, though I did­n’t hate it.) That said, I do like THE CAIMAN (which works a lot bet­ter if you go into it not know­ing that it’s a Berlusconi satire, I think) and I really like WE HAVE A POPE. Where you found wishy-washy aim­less­ness, I found a pretty inter­est­ing por­trait of a world where every­body (not just the Pope-elect) was forced into play­ing a role they had­n’t conceived.
    I do agree though that Piccoli is the film’s greatest asset, though I’m not sure why that should be con­sidered a bad thing. I appre­ci­ated the fact that Moretti was often con­tent to just let us watch him.

  • TonyRest says:

    You Americans are Moretti come to know, as we would say in Italy, “at the table already laden”, ie at the end of a com­plex path authori­al irony dis­guised as frivol­ous, how­ever, recog­nized at nation­al and European level. Especially in Italy and France is con­sidered a mas­ter, maybe not like Fellini but one of the few Italian dir­ect­ors of the value of the last thirty years (with a few oth­ers, Sorrentino, Bellocchio, Tornatore …). Considering also that his films are free of dir­ect­ori­al vir­tu­os­ity and con­ven­tion­al nar­rat­ive struc­tures then I can under­stand why people do not like Moretti used to dif­fer­ent kind of cinema. His is a look a little nar­ciss­ist­ic but not self-indulgent and free from all sorts of ruf­fi­an­er­ie to please the audi­ence (of any sec­tion of soci­ety it belongs). On the sub­ject deserves lengthy dis­ser­ta­tions that are not just lim­ited in space for a com­ment. Or write very long essays on Nanni Moretti or you make four lines in which it presents the film, the plot (almost always an excuse) without any medi­ation what­so­ever crit­ic­al (which would be false and incom­plete without a care­ful selec­tion philo­lo­gic­al per­formed on the body of his films).
    Source: I am a stu­dent of Moretti and I’ve read sev­er­al books ded­ic­ated to him (you do not edit) and I’m writ­ing about his Opera.
    Sorry for my English.

  • TonyRest says:

    Just for the record, I inform you that in Italy “Bianca”(1984) is con­sidered Moretti’s mas­ter­piece by crit­ics and audi­ences (while in the for­eign art­icles, strangely, he nev­er men­tions it).
    For those inter­ested in more inform­a­tion or insights I leave here the link to the wiki­pe­dia page of Italian:
    http://it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nanni_moretti

  • I have been a fan of Moretti’s for a con­sid­er­able num­ber of years. “Palombella Rosa” is bey­ond amaz­ing– a dry-eyed semi-lament for the col­lapse of the Italian Communist party staged as a water polo game whose cli­max is reached when the tele­vi­sion set over the bar shows the pen­ul­tim­ate scene from “Doctor Zhivago” (Yuri sees Lara for the last time, and dies) – which every­one includ­ing the play­ers stops to watch. That Raul Ruiz has an act­ing role in this film is indic­at­ive of a depth and com­plex­ity to Moretti deserving of a book, rather than an art­icle, much less a blog post.
    I was also moved by “Caro Diario” par­tic­u­larly for the squence in which Moretti goes to the beach at Ostia to vis­it the spot where Pasolini was murdered. Someone – no one knows who – has built a memori­al on that spot.
    “We Have a Pope” is a delib­er­ately light film on a heavy sub­ject. He depicts the Catholic church col­lapsing not from its sex criems but from “stage friight.” In many ways it’s a com­pan­ion piece to Manoel de Oliviera’s “I’m Going Home” whcih also stars the great Michel Piccoli

  • Glenn Kenny says:

    David, in my review I think I men­tion that “Pope” fre­quently made me think of/wish I was watch­ing “I’m Going Home,” so we are on the same page there. I shall have to look into “Palombella Rosa.”

  • TonyRest says:

    Palombella Rossa” (with 2 ‘S’), trans­lated as “Red Lob”.

  • Here’s my tale on HABEMUS PAPAM (prefer the Latin title, espe­cially when past­ing in on Easter Sunday):
    HABEMUS PAPAM (Moretti, Italy, 2011, 5) But that’s a gen­er­ous grade. PAPAM starts out won­der­fully as the Catholic-Nerd Comedy of my dreams and Moretti shows he could’ve made a great screw­ball com­edy by stay­ing inside St. Peter’s (par­ody of Vatican press corps had me in stitches). But once Piccoli as pope-elect escapes Vatican, the com­ic cre­ativ­ity dries up and the few good ideas (the vol­ley­ball too­namint) over­stay their wel­come. The last scene, in par­tic­u­lar, flirts with blas­phemy, isn’t con­sist­ent with second-last scene, and is the wrong end­ing for what nev­er was more than a (some­times first-rate admit­tedly) feather­weight com­edy. You don’t flip the switch from Stephen Colbert to Bunuel in one moment. If the film had already been a front­al attack on Catholicism, I could respect the end­ing artist­ic­ally. but the very fact it had­n’t been such a film (or even a very deep film about one man’s crisis of faith) makes the end­ing gra­tu­it­ous, dischordant.

  • I dis­agree, but that’s quite an inter­est­ing take.
    I hope I’m not alone in hav­ing seen Marco Ferreri’s Papal Kafkaesque “The Audience.”
    Glenn?