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"Moonrise Kingdom"

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A pretty extraordin­ary movie, I think. Reviewed for MSN Movies here

I am entirely pre­pared to counter any of the rote, trite, and insup­port­able asser­tions that “Wes Anderson needs to grow up” and so on, but I can­’t guar­an­tee I’ll be able to be polite about it all that long. 

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  • Jonah says:

    Was nice to read this and Todd McCarthy’s nearly-as-glowing review–both high­light the music, too. Not that I was­n’t anti­cip­at­ing this before, but it cer­tainly does­n’t sound like any kind of misstep.
    I was dis­ap­poin­ted that the fest­iv­al review of “Moonrise Kingdom” by Cahiers edit­or Jean-Michel Frodon was just a par­tic­u­larly con­des­cend­ing ver­sion of the old “If this is the sort of thing you like, you will like this” line–adding that the film was basic­ally point­less (“inutile”). Hey then moved on to the pur­portedly more “ambi­tious” “Rust and Bone.” I admire Frodon, so I don’t want to assume that he’s indul­ging the fre­quent crit­ic­al pre­ju­dice that ima­gines com­edy to be less pro­found, “ser­i­ous,” or import­ant than sear­ing drama. It’s prob­ably more that he just has­n’t warmed to Anderson’s approach, which as you point out in your review, is plenty ambi­tious in its painstak­ingly “com­posed” nature.
    (By the way it’s inter­est­ing that on the evid­ence of Frodon’s review, “Rushmore” does­n’t seem to have been released in France–a shame, as I think it’s his best pic­ture along with “Fantastic Mr. Fox”.)
    It’s funny; for me, the “emo­tion­al res­on­ance” that so many high­light to defend Anderson’s films is mostly theoretical–the excep­tions being parts of “Rushmore” and, at least after hav­ing seen it many times, the cli­max of “Fox.” For me, the key to Anderson’s great­ness is in his intensi­fy­ing the “dec­or­at­ive” aspect of cinema to some­thing tran­scend­ent. Usually to call some­thing “dec­or­at­ive” in an artist­ic con­text is to den­ig­rate it, but watch­ing (and think­ing about!) Anderson’s films I find their dec­or­at­ive qual­it­ies a source of tre­mend­ous, sus­tain­ing pleas­ure. I always find some­thing new and, yes, clev­er in his best films: a thoughtfully-paced zoom that actu­ally seems to reflect mean­ing­fully on the leg­acy of ver­ité aes­thet­ics, a motif whose com­plex pat­tern­ing only occurs to you on the ump­teenth view­ing, a par­tic­u­lar con­fig­ur­a­tion of autum­nal col­ors that offers an unex­pec­ted jolt.…
    All the argu­ments about wheth­er Anderson is self-absorbed, wheth­er his char­ac­ters are priv­ileged, the vir­tues of “quirk,” etc. seem largely unre­lated to why I admire his films so much. Although part of me won­ders if some­where with­in those argu­ments is a (sub­lim­in­al) debate over the mean­ing and rel­ev­ance of the “dec­or­at­ive” in art.

  • lipranzer says:

    Jonah, while I agree about Anderson’s “dec­or­at­ive pleas­ures”, I dis­agree about the emo­tion­al res­on­ance being “the­or­et­ic­al”. I think Anderson presents it right up front; think of Ben Stiller finally break­ing down in “The Royal Tenenbaums” (still my favor­ite Anderson movie), or the funer­al scene in “The Darjeeling Limited”.
    At any rate, even though I need to save my money thanks to being unem­ployed, I am def­in­itely going to see this open­ing day.

  • Jonah says:

    I only said that it was “mostly the­or­et­ic­al” _to me_; I was­n’t mak­ing any grand claims about how oth­ers exper­i­ence or should exper­i­ence Anderson’s films. His films unapo­lo­get­ic­ally seek emo­tion­al responses, and I have no trouble believ­ing that they are deeply mov­ing for many, par­tic­u­larly “Tenenbaums” which seems to be the closest to a con­sensus favor­ite and one I just can­’t bring myself to love as much as sev­er­al others.

  • Jonah says:

    Apologies for that run-on sen­tence. Supply your own periods.

  • Bettencourt says:

    I just saw it last week­end, and though I’m gen­er­ally not as big a fan of Anderson as many on this site are, I thought it was truly lovely and much more genu­inely emo­tion­al than I expec­ted. For me it ranked with Rushmore and Fantastic Mr. Fox as his very best. (And I know this could­n’t be a more obscure com­par­is­on, but am I the only one who thought Bill Murray in the film looked like an over­weight and less hand­some Caleb Deschanel?)
    And while we’re on the top­ic of dir­ect­ors that many SCR read­ers like more (in this case, MUCH MORE) than I do, did any­one else read that David Gordon Green is about to remake Suspiria, with Isabelle Fuhrman (the orphan from Orphan, and recently seen in The Hunger Games)?
    Did Suspiria have such a strong premise or story that it’s worthy of remak­ing? (I doubt they’ll remake the visu­al style, but you nev­er know). Or did Black Swan con­vince people that thrillers with a bal­let back­ground are a mar­ket­able genre?

  • Oliver_C says:

    Wes Anderson needs to grow up”
    Anderson *DID* grow up, back in the mid-90s, before ‘Bottle Rocket’ had even com­pleted its lengthy, previews-and-reshoots route to the screen. It occurred the moment he ditched his ori­gin­al treat­ment (a ‘Reservoir Dogs’-esque heist-gone-wrong tale, com­plete with pop-cultural delib­er­a­tions and the Luke Wilson char­ac­ter run­ning into close-up in slow motion and shout­ing “NOOO!!!!!” when Owen gets fatally shot).

  • Jonah says:

    It’s inter­est­ing to think of “Bottle Rocket” as one of the more way­ward sons of “Reservoir Dogs.” I guess it’s obvi­ous once you place it in that mid-’90s con­text, but nowadays Anderson’s films inhab­it their own uni­verse as much as Tarantino’s that it takes some reminding.

  • So glad you brought up “I Know Where I’m Going.” It was right on the tip of my tongue. It’s not that Anderson “needs to grow up,” it’s that we “need to grow DOWN.” There’s genu­ine enchant­ment at work here, and I’m quite sur­prised at those who don’t get it – par­tic­u­larly the French. My friend Dennis Cooper (who has been liv­ing in France for close to a dec­ade now) and is a huming­ous Wes fan says the French “just don’t get him at all.” Weird – espe­cially with all the evoc­a­tions of Truffaut.
    The visu­al styl­ist I find Wes has most in com­mon with is Joseph Cornell. His com­pos­i­tion are Cornell boxes with real people in them instead of dolls and detritus.

  • MarkVH says:

    Wonderful review. Couldn’t pos­sibly be more amped to see this. It feels like Anderson, more than any oth­er cur­rent dir­ect­or (e.g., Tarantino), is someone who rode in on a wave of adu­la­tion that soon turned to scorn for no good reas­on oth­er than that a) he refused to change his aes­thet­ic and b) it became cool to dis­like him for refus­ing to change his aes­thet­ic. I’ve nev­er wavered from my love of his films and can­’t wait for this one.
    Also, in think­ing about it (and under­stand­ing that I’m a huge fan of Darjeeling), when was the last time a dir­ect­or had a three-film run as good as Darjeeling-Mr. Fox-Moonrise Kingdom? It seems that even fans have a tend­ency to mar­gin­al­ize his movies for being so typ­ic­ally Andersonian, yet at the same time I’d put his cur­rent run up against that of just about any work­ing director.

  • Nicolas Leblanc says:

    This is a truly won­der­ful film. Was mostly taken aback by the review­ers which decried it as being too mech­an­ic­al or “lack­ing heart.” The inter­play between Suzy, her moth­er and fath­er (from the first shots of the film, ) make for some of the sad­dest moments in all of Anderson’s filmography.
    @David Ehrenstein: ‘My friend Dennis Cooper (who has been liv­ing in France for close to a dec­ade now) and is a huming­ous Wes fan says the French “just don’t get him at all.“ ‘
    I don’t know in what France your friend lives. In the France I live in, MOONRISE KINGDOM got mostly pos­it­ive to glow­ing notices and TENENBAUM, LIFE AQUATIC and FANTASTIC MR. FOX are revered.

  • Lex says:

    What year do I set my Moretzendar for?

  • Petey says:

    In the France I live in, MOONRISE KINGDOM got mostly pos­it­ive to glow­ing notices and TENENBAUM, LIFE AQUATIC and FANTASTIC MR. FOX are revered.”
    I’m glad to see that some coun­try likes Zissou. It’s his best film, flaws acknow­ledged. But back in the US, back in the US, back in the USA, it always gets a ‘meh’ response. Sorta like the way that The Hudsucker Proxy gets no love, even though the Coen broth­ers nev­er quite man­aged to actu­ally top it.
    (Tenenbaums is a gem, but even still, its flaws are even more glar­ing than Zissou’s, and its strengths are weaker.)
    Hell, Zissou wins on the soundtrack alone. And the pic­ture track ain’t too shabby either. They even work well together.

  • Jake Hardy says:

    More frus­trat­ing than “Anderson needs to grow up” is per­haps “Anderson fears women”.

  • Fears women”? How? I don’t see that at all.

  • Zach says:

    I’m glad to see all the pos­it­ive notice that MOONRISE is get­ting. MR. FOX was a bril­liant return to form after what I thought was a some­what lack­ing DARJEELING LTD and ZISSOU. Excited to see it.
    @ Petey – Zissou is Wes’ Best? You and SteveZ been hit­tin too much of that hooch. It suc­ceeds as a com­edy, but the more ser­i­ous beats are just that – they feel inser­ted into the nar­rat­ive, rather than the spon­tan­eous and organ­ic feel­ing of the TENENBAUMS or RUSHMORE. Nothing beats the bit­ter­sweet finales of those two films – pure cinema in music, motion, and per­form­ance. I’m one of those who holds that Wes is at his best as a writer when he’s boun­cing ideas off of Owen Wilson – so far, those have been the most fruit­ful of his col­lab­or­a­tions (with the pos­sible excep­tion of Fantastic Mr. Fox).

  • bill says:

    Yes, LIFE AQUATIC is his best. This is a true state­ment. Murray’s best per­form­ance, too.

  • Petey says:

    Zissou is Wes’ Best? You and SteveZ been hit­tin too much of that hooch”
    As the film itself demon­strates, wrong choice of drug for that spe­cif­ic flick.

  • Zach says:

    Well, not to nit­pick, but by “hooch” I am refer­ring to the intox­ic­ant I’m pretty sure you have in mind. As someone from Zissou’s era would cer­tainly have recog­nized, I daresay.

  • LondonLee says:

    I was­n’t a huge fan of LIFE AQUATIC either but watch­ing the action sequences I did think Anderson would be the per­fect per­son to make a Tintin movie.

  • Petey says:

    LondonLee for the win.

  • MovieMan0283 says:

    Re: Zach at 11:34, yes yes yes. I will look for­ward to see­ing Moonrise for sev­er­al reas­ons, but while always inter­est­ing most of Anderson’s latest films have been dis­ap­point­ing to me. And I do feel that, as a col­lab­or­at­or, Wilson brought out more of his warm, human­ist side than Baumbach did (it will be inter­est­ing to see how the new film, with Coppola as appar­ently his only co-writer, pans out in that regard). Life Aquatic and Darjeeling Limited seemed to be striv­ing for that hard-to-pin-down-yet-perfectly-realized-mood which Tenenbaums and Rushmore achieve so effortlessly.
    I don’t know that he needs to “grow up” but I do think his enchanted little tent has become a bit too her­met­ic­ally sealed. What made the earli­er films (per­haps Bottle Rocket too, which I need to see again) so poignant was that they were fully real­ized mini-universes that still exis­ted in rela­tion to some form of real­ity. They were like dreams the view­er was in the pro­cess of wak­ing up from, try­ing to cling to the bit­ter­sweet mel­an­choly vibe while the wak­ing world began to creep in.

  • Fernando says:

    Interesting thoughts, MovieMan0283. I deeply love all of Anderson’s movies and recently saw RUSHMORE (my favor­ite movie, by any­one, and the movie that really turned me on, so to speak, to the pos­sib­il­it­ies of cinema) on 35mm/the big screen for the first time. I noticed how many loc­a­tions in that movie look like straight-up Houston, not Andersonland. Even in TENENBAUMS and DARJEELING, the real-world loc­a­tions have more of a fussed-over look to them, or just seem more painstak­ingly hand-picked. Not to say that RUSHMORE is some gritty vérité trip, but just com­pare the house at 111 Archer Avenue to Grover Cleveland High School.

  • Fernando says:

    Also, an anec­dote: Christmas Day, 2004, sixteen-year-old me drove 90 miles each way to the nearest theat­er show­ing THE LIFE AQUATIC and got a bit sick on the way back due to the bit­ter head­ache caused by the ines­cap­able sun dir­ectly in my sight­line. It was worth it.

  • Zach says:

    MovieMan0283 – thanks for your sharp elab­or­a­tion on those ideas. I agree that in Tenenbaums and Rushmore, there is a sense that Anderson’s metic­u­lous world of arti­fice is per­meable; the emo­tion­al stakes are partly built open the fra­gil­ity of that world. I won­der if by mak­ing the arti­fice more sol­id & per­vas­ive, Anderson (and his co-writers) have lessened the stakes. It seems pos­sible; cer­tainly, ZISSOU is by far the most arti­fi­cial of all, and for me, again, it’s the least emo­tion­ally affect­ing. I guess I should say here that I’m not AGAINST arti­fi­ci­al­ity, or “plas­ti­city,” but that in the case of Anderson, it might occa­sion­ally work against him.
    I think it’s reflec­ted most sig­ni­fic­antly in the char­ac­ters. RUSHMORE’s Max (a tour-de-force by Shwartzman that he has yet to sur­pass; since then he’s got this swag­ger and occa­sion­al smug­ness that irks me) is flawed but deeply like­able, I think. He’s hero­ic – pretty much the only occur­rence of that in Anderson’s can­on so far, by the way (although it looks as though MOONRISE could change that.) Gene Hackman as Royal is also a won­der­ful per­form­ance of a great char­ac­ter – an asshole, as he says, but a great one to watch. But as much as I love Murray, Zissou just does­n’t quite have that much depth – partly this is Murray being no Hackman, and partly it’s that his char­ac­ter just does­n’t go as deep. He’s an over­grown boy – we know that imme­di­ately, and he does­n’t really go that far bey­ond that. For me, the biggest flaw in AQUATIC is Ned’s death, which felt unne­ces­sary and dra­mat­ic­ally fumbled – a con­trived attempt to drive the story into more ser­i­ous territory.
    All of which isn’t to say that I dis­like AQUATIC – it’s really a ter­rif­ic film – I just think it’s worth­while to get into the nitty- gritty of what works & does­n’t and why, espe­cially with someone as immensely tal­en­ted as Wes Anderson.

  • warren oates says:

    Not a fan of Anderson’s work. Probably my favor­ite or least hated up until now has been the fox film. But I’m strangely drawn to the trail­er for the new one.
    Bill or oth­er fans of AQUATIC riddle me this: Is it just moi or is this film so per­fectly attuned to the com­ic rhythms of Bill Murray that he does­n’t really have any­thing to do? Whereas every oth­er great Murry film works at least in part by con­trast­ing him with the rest of its world.

  • Joel Bocko says:

    (MovieMan0283 here – I acci­dent­ally removed my old sign-in for the last comment)
    Fernando – yeah, Rushmore is inter­est­ing for the way it not just places Andersonland in rela­tion to the real world, but actu­ally with­in it. It also has a very “Peanuts” feel much of the time (don’t they actu­ally use a song from the Christmas spe­cial at one point), espe­cially in the scenes with his fath­er. Simple, unadorned, yet still with some of that magic­al sense that later he tends to reserve for wealth­i­er milieus.
    Zach – We’re sim­patico here too. The fra­gil­ity of the worlds and the char­ac­ter with­in them seem to be high­lighted more when he’s work­ing with Wilson. Baumbach, in his own work (at least that which I’ve seen), gives the impres­sion of someone not much con­cerned with a world out­side of his own. His char­ac­ters are vul­ner­able, but in a brittle way and the threats seem more intern­al than extern­al. Greenberg may kind of be an excep­tion to that (maybe it’s the Anderson influ­ence work­ing back­wards?) but in gen­er­al his films don’t have a real ten­sion between an inside and out­side world, at least that I’ve noticed. I think the qual­it­ies he high­lights in Anderson – the insu­lar sense of priv­ilege, the obses­sion with famili­al dys­func­tion (which can come to seem a bit rote, like the Spielberg divorce com­pul­sion), the intel­lec­tu­al­iz­a­tion of char­ac­ters – are not Anderson’s best qualities.

  • Joel Bocko says:

    Another thing – it’s fas­cin­at­ing for me to see where people draw the line in determ­in­ing good/less-good Anderson. For some Rushmore is the last one that fully worked, for oth­ers it’s Royal Tenenbaums. I won­der what that says about those people – and the films themselves.
    For me, it’s def­in­itely Tenenbaums. It’s def­in­itely an accel­er­a­tion of the trend that led to the later movies, and – as Fernando notes – the first one to really delve head-on into Andersonland and fab­ric­ate even the “real” loc­a­tions. Yet it’s still got Wilson’s touch (although appar­ently he was MIA for most of the writ­ing pro­cess and Anderson ended up doing a lot of it him­self – but Baumbach was­n’t involved yet any­way), and it’s also got – as Zach points out – Hackman’s mag­ni­fi­cent per­form­ance, which def­in­itely adds a pun­geant dash of tan­gible real­ity to off­set the magic­al mood­i­ness that most of the later films have wal­lowed in com­pletely. It’s got a nice ying/yang tex­ture to it still – and because it goes all-in on the Anderson mise en scene while main­tain­ing a whiff of the impinging out­side world I think it may be his mas­ter­piece (though Rushmore is often my favor­ite). Plus I just con­nect to it per­son­ally – among oth­er things, Royal reminds me a lot of my recently deceased grandpa.
    Another thing – is loc­a­tion import­ant? Rushmore and Tenenbaums take place in America and thus carry over a kind of nation­al myth­os from the real world. Their very tex­tures con­tain over­tones which even the fussi­est Anderson treat­ment can­’t undo. But Aquatic and Darjeeling take place in unfa­mil­i­ar set­tings (at least to west­ern­ers or, in the first place, land­lub­bers) where Anderson can depart fur­ther and fur­ther from a recog­niz­ably real-world uni­verse. And also, those two movies have an autum­nal set­ting – some­thing not pos­sible under the sea or in India (maybe one reas­on that Fantastic Mr. Fox, des­pite its out­lier status, felt like a return to form for many). Fall is def­in­itely the best sea­son for Anderson. Perhaps anoth­er reas­on to look for­ward to Moonlight – I can­’t recall exactly when it was shot (and that screen-cap above looks more like late sum­mer) but I seem to recall it was in the fall…maybe I’m way off on that. Wishful think­ing, perhaps…

  • I remem­ber watch­ing RUSHMORE with a friend, and turn­ing to him about 20 minutes before the end and say­ing “If this film ends with Max being put under a plank, and that plank being loaded with one boulder after anoth­er until the life is crushed from his mewl­ing body, the townspeople cheer­ing as his eyes pop from his skull, and the teach­er he got fired jam­ming a foot into his nose as he breathes his last, then I really like this movie. Otherwise, this movie sucks.” It was­n’t Max wan­der­ing around fuck­ing up decent people’s lives that drove me nuts—I love me an unlike­able protagonist!—it was the dir­ect­or’s con­vic­tion that he was mak­ing a movie about an ador­ably pre­co­cious li’l ras­cal rather than a sociopath. Where are The Shining Path when you need them?
    That said… I think you’re onto some­thing, Zach. In Anderson’s movies, the ten­sion comes from the her­met­ic arty uni­verse versus the mundane world (quite lit­er­ally in the case of Rushmore, more ton­ally for Tennenbaums). In later Anderson (includ­ing Fox, I thought), the cre­ated uni­verse is all there is. That’s fine if you’re Guy Maddin, and occupy a cre­ated uni­verse fraught with crazy fears and rages. But Anderson’s cre­ated uni­verse is a per­fect little snow globe full of pretty clothes and nice songs and no taste­less people, so noth­ing can hap­pen inside it.

  • Petey says:

    Another thing – it’s fas­cin­at­ing for me to see where people draw the line in determ­in­ing good/less-good Anderson … I won­der what that says about those people – and the films themselves.”
    No doubt. Rushmore has a Holden Caulfield clock­work per­fec­tion to it. Tenenbaums has a Franny and Zoey clock­work per­fec­tion to it. If that’s all you need, fine, that’s all you need.
    But Zissou is MORE. As bill notes, it gives Bill Murray the full can­vas to work with, which is some­thing spe­cial. It also adds some Tati to the mix, which is some­thing spe­cial. And it breaks down the her­met­ic world a bit by being a film about film­mak­ing, which forces some semi-autobiographical res­on­ances to his work, and those are always fun.
    And that’s before we get to all the spe­cial effects of Zissou. The Seu Jorge doing Bowie is a spe­cial effect non­pareil. The boat is an amaz­ing spe­cial effect. The sea itself is bey­ond an amaz­ing spe­cial effect. And that’s all before we get into the Selick actu­al SFX.
    (I’d be remiss if I did­n’t note the spe­cial effect in Tenenbaums of hav­ing an LP play two songs IN A ROW dur­ing that amaz­ing sequence mid-way though. Blew me away the first time I saw that, and wondered why nobody had ever done that before. I won­der if à la Hitch and Herrmann, Wes thought that he was just doing 60% of the movies before he handed them off to Mothersbaugh for the oth­er 40%.)
    Some folks are fine with Salinger-esque clock­work per­fec­tion. Some folks want MORE. As stated, even though it gets no love, I think The Hudsucker Proxy is the Coens’ best film, even though it gets no love. Give me a highly ambi­tious, big can­vas, every trick in the book, wild mess that some­how coheres over a small clock­work per­fec­tion any day of the week. That’s why Zissou is Wes’s best in any reas­on­able assess­ment. Same way Stardust Memories is MORE than Love and Death, even though Love and Death is pretty damn perfect.

  • Chris O. says:

    Just read an art­icle where Robert Yeoman men­tioned Ken Loach’s “Black Jack,” Alan Parker’s “Melody,” and Truffaut “Small Change” as par­tic­u­lar inspir­a­tions – he prob­ably thought Powell/Pressburger went without say­ing, but glad you men­tioned it, Glenn. I thought Tilda Swinton looked like Deborah Kerr as soon as I saw her in the trail­er and there’s a par­tic­u­lar shot in “Darjeeling” that was very “Black Narcissus.” Can’t wait to see this.
    Yeoman on shoot­ing Super 16 for “Moonrise:”
    http://www.studiodaily.com/2012/05/cinematographer-robert-yeoman-talks-super-16-style-on-moonrise-kingdom/

  • Zach says:

    Joel, that’s inter­est­ing about the sea­sons and loc­a­tion – cer­tainly, Anderson’s movies have a very autum­nal feel­ing, and they are always, even AQUATIC, told from a per­spect­ive that can­’t help but be American. (Even Mr. Fox is voiced by George Clooney, a quint­es­sen­tial AMERICAN actor.)
    The thing is – going by the trail­er (and some of the notices so far), MOONRISE looks to be fairly, well, her­met­ic. Island com­munity, young act­ors, super-16 film – ? Reason to be cau­tious, per­haps, but I’m optim­ist­ic – and MR. FOX can be seen as a test case of sorts, with a com­pletely arti­fi­cial world that still comes alive. As I’ve said and Joel has as well, it’s really the inter­play of the real vs. “arti­fi­cial” world; BUT – and this is a big but – the arti­fi­cial world is a emotional/spiritual place, not spe­cific­ally refer­ring to all the per­fectly com­posed tableaux, cos­tumes, music choices, etc. It’s Mr. Fox’s belief in his infal­lib­il­ity, it’s Max’s belief that he can win the heart of a wid­ow, Royal’s idea that he can snow his fam­ily, etc.
    I think it’s funny, too, per Fuzzy, that some people are driv­en nuts by Max Fischer. I think he’s awe­some, and I’ve always thought that, but it takes all kinds.

  • Joel Bocko says:

    See, I actu­ally feel the oppos­ite, Petey – that, in terms of real­iz­ing Anderson’s uni­verse in full detail, Life Aquatic and Darjeeling are MORE per­fect than the earli­er films but that their miss­ing the messi­ness which out­side influ­ences bring (be those influ­ences extern­al soci­ety, spe­cif­ic char­ac­ters or style of act­ing, or a set­ting that can­’t entirely be con­trolled). In that sense Tenenbaums and Rushmore actu­ally have “more” than the later films, which are TOO per­fectly controlled.

  • Joel Bocko says:

    Yeah, def­in­itely, Zach – the ideal in ten­sion with the actual.

  • Joel Gordon says:

    Joel: The tit­u­lar train in Darjeeling is the “con­trolled” set­ting, while everything off the train is kind of messy, dan­ger­ous, and heart­break­ing. Not very dif­fer­ent from the school in Rushmore. Darjeeling was, for me, a peak film for Anderson, espe­cially the way that he blocked and shot the three broth­ers, cre­at­ing this strong sense of famili­al con­nec­tion even when they were at each oth­er­’s throats (it helped that it was mostly scored to the The Kinks). I expect great things from the new film.

  • For me the key Wes is “Tenebaums” for very per­sonla reas­ons. I get the L:ittle Jerry Salinger (as Carol Matthau called him) con­nec­tion but I’ve nev­er liked his work much at all (Holden’s a cock­teas­ing snot) The Glass series was a des­per­ate attempt to rewrite a short story whose shock­er end­ing fore­closed all future narrative.
    The tth­ing was I knew a fam­ily exactly like the Tenenbaums who lived in a house exactly like the Tenenbaums on the upper west side of New York. This was back in the early 60ss, pri­or to Wes’ birth, But the repro­duc­tion of those people and that mileu was gobsmack­ingly pre­cise – right down to our obses­sion with “Between the Buttons.” Wes grinned ear to ear when I told him about this.

  • Petey says:

    Darjeeling was, for me, a peak film for Anderson”
    Ah. There has to be one in any crowd.
    At least no one is nam­ing FMF as the peak, which is my least favor­ite Wes movie. (Not a bad film, just my least favor­ite. In the same way that The Ladykillers is my least favor­ite Coen broth­ers movie, even though it’s got some great stuff in it.)
    And tan­gen­tially, Wes is nice, by I’m more excited by Holy Motors than Moonrise Kingdom.

  • Joel Gordon says:

    Ah. There has to be one in any crowd.”
    Not the first time someone has said that about me. Maybe I can raise Darjeeling aware­ness, and then inspire oth­er Darjeeling lov­ers to join me. Soon I won’t feel so alone.

  • Petey says:

    Maybe I can raise Darjeeling aware­ness, and then inspire oth­er Darjeeling lov­ers to join me.”
    To my mind, think­ing Darjeeling is Wes’s best is like think­ing Beat the Devil is John Huston’s best.
    They’re both sham­bol­ic messes with lots of redeem­ing fea­tures. You can make a coher­ent case for each of them, and there’ll be be one (non-idiot) in any crowd who will respond by say­ing “Finally, someone got it.”
    You’re not alone, but it’s still not a cor­rect answer…

  • MarkVH says:

    You’re not alone, but it’s still not a cor­rect answer…”
    Who’s to say it’s not? I’d put Darjeeling at least on par with Tenenbaums, above Zissou and just a notch below the Fantastic Mr. Fox (which I find to be a sheer delight from begin­ning to end). It’s a bit more emo­tion­ally dis­tant than Tenenbaums, but to me that makes the emo­tion it does have cut that much deep­er. It’s also got at least one great per­form­ance (Brody), a laugh quo­tient equal or great­er to that of Zissou, and a ter­rif­ic sense of place. I feel like it came at exactly the wrong time (when Anderson back­lash was in full effect, fol­low­ing Zissou), which is part of the reas­on why it’s con­sidered less­er Anderson to this day, but I’m afraid don’t find this to be the case at all. Conversely, Moonrise is com­ing out at exactly the right time, when the world is ready to embrace him again after the pal­ate cleanser of Mr. Fox (how­ever much of a piece that film actu­ally was with his earli­er work, the shift in form helped people to for­get what they dis­liked about the pre­vi­ous films).
    I think when the Anderson book is writ­ten, Darjeeling will be viewed as his “Canterbury Tale” – a unique but no less essen­tial piece of the Anderson puzzle.

  • Petey says:

    Who’s to say it’s not?”
    You, for one.
    “I’d put Darjeeling at least on par with Tenenbaums, above Zissou and just a notch below the Fantastic Mr. Fox”
    I’ll give you the cred­it of think­ing you’re just clev­erly tak­ing the piss here. FMF, indeed…

  • Tom Russell says:

    I also love Darjeeling. My favor­ite Anderson film is usu­ally whichever one I’ve seen most recently.
    They’re all peaks– the man has nev­er made a film that’s been any­thing less than a com­plete masterwork.

  • Thomas says:

    The Royal Tenenbaums” and “Fantastic Mr. Fox” are my two favor­ites – I think I’ve watched each about a dozen times – but I’ve got to agree that he has­n’t yet made any­thing less than a very good film.

  • Jon Hastings says:

    Another vote for “Darjeeling”, my favor­ite and (I think) the best of his movies (at least until I saw “Moonrise Kingdom”), but it was the first one really clicked for me, so I’m not sur­prised if fans of the earli­er ones find it lack­ing in some way. For me, it seemed to be a real break-through for him and that he had developed an almost Blake Edwards-like ‘scope slap­stick style (the Edwardsian vibe was helped along by the “Hotel Chevalier” prologue).

  • Tom Block says:

    I just finally saw “Darjeeling” and “Zissou” in the last two days. I liked “Zissou” a hell of a lot more than the con­ven­tion­al wis­dom indic­ates I should; I don’t know if Baumbach’s involve­ment or that fant­ast­ic ensemble made a dif­fer­ence, but I was effort­lessly, even help­lessly, inter­ested in what was going on in it. (Most of the time, at least–there is one spotty patch.) “Darjeeling”, though–*whoo*. That thing’s just a forced march through a jungle of played-out tics–if not for Brody I might’ve just bailed on it.

  • Petey says:

    I just finally saw “Darjeeling” and “Zissou” in the last two days. I liked “Zissou” a hell of a lot more than the con­ven­tion­al wis­dom indic­ates I should”
    I aim to provide genu­ine canon­ic­al wis­dom, not merely the CW.
    It does it with the great raw mater­i­als of Murray, Seu Jorge, the sea, the Mediterranean, and the ship/film studio.
    And the crim­in­al thing is that for a movie with more gor­geous visu­als than any oth­er Wes movie, you can­’t get it in a decent format. It’s not out on Blu, and even if you can get it steamed in HD, the bit-rate isn’t going to jus­ti­fy just how beau­ti­ful the pic­ture really is.
    (I lucked into see­ing it a couple of times dur­ing the the­at­ric­al run, and I’ve got a high-bit-rate HDTV copy off of my TiVo, let­ter­boxed and unbadged. Thank god for HDNET. Mark Cuban’s out­fit runs films with a high­er bit-rate and bet­ter dis­play char­ac­ter­ist­ics than any oth­er cableco movie outlet.)