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A 19-year-old asshole sees "Alien" for the first time [Updated]

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Alien

It’s dif­fi­cult to really for­mu­late, in one’s memory, just how that qual­ity we now know as “buzz” was gen­er­ated in the days before this mess we’re all in now, but my recol­lec­tion is that Alien DID indeed have some buzz about it before open­ing, des­pite the fact that it was a film that had no stars and its dir­ect­or was a rel­at­ively unknown qual­ity. I and my col­legi­ate pals were some­what aware of The Duellists, but had­n’t actu­ally seen it. But we did know that this pic­ture was com­ing and it was sup­posed to be some­thing. There was a pro­duc­tion story about it in the issue of Rolling Stone dated May 31st, which would have been on news­stands about a week before the film’s May 25th, 1979 open­ing (Wenner’s magazine was then, as now, a biweekly). I’m not sure if we had seen it or not.

But for whatever reas­on I was there for it on the after­noon of the open­ing day at the then-majestic (and now com­pletely nonex­ist­ent) Stanley Warner Theatre on Route 4 in Paramus, N.J. Among my “posse” was the now-infrequent-SCR-chimer-in Joseph Failla, who’s been my moviego­ing com­pan­ion since third grade, and My Close Personal Friend Ron Goldberg™, soon to be the key­board play­er and com­pos­i­tion maes­tro of the now-reformulated Haledon rock legends Artificial Intelligence. We went in with a very “bring it” atti­tude. And I left with the con­vic­tion that it had not, in fact, been broughten. 

I’m not entirely cer­tain wheth­er or not I was under the influ­ence of can­nabis dur­ing the view­ing (it’s not unlikely, frankly) but I can tell you I was feel­ing pretty feisty. When the spawn of the face-sucker burst out of John Hurt’s chest, unhinged its jaw, screeched, and scur­ried away, I actu­ally tittered, and then sputtered, rather loudly, and with no small amount of what I then con­sidered punk-rock indig­na­tion, “It’s the Eraserhead baby with teeth!” Yes, I was pretty much the guy that you and every­body else in the sen­tient movie-viewing uni­verse wants to pum­mel. And when the pic­ture was over, I shrugged and seethed “That’s IT?” My Close Personal Friend Ron Goldberg™ semi-fumed “It’s just a slick­er remake of X! The Terror From Beyond Space.” And then we all went to the Forum diner and then maybe back to Ron’s par­ents’ place in Clifton to listen to King Crimson’s Red and watch the pretty blue volume-level lights on his amp­li­fi­er, or something. 

I did not write up Alien for my col­lege paper, thank God, or doubt­less I would have puked up some­thing dar­ingly right­eous and con­trari­an and dumb. I was 19 years old and although some will attest that I was a nice and amus­ing and even charm­ing fel­low on some levels, I was also an opin­ion­ated loud­mouth asshole who thought he knew everything and that if you did­n’t grok Henry Cow you were an indi­vidu­al of entirely sub­par intel­li­gence and not much worth my time. (Of course I was also canny enough not to play Henry Cow records for all that many of the women I dated, but we’ll get into that some oth­er time.) I did not really come around to Alien until maybe the mid-80s. What turned me around was…well, it was a few things. I saw more movies, learned about form, and started—I can­’t emphas­ize enough the import­ance of that verb being “star­ted”—to try and look at movies with respect to what was actu­ally on the screen and with less of an urge to out­smart what I was look­ing at. The evol­u­tion of home video was one of the factors that turned Alien into an endur­ing clas­sic rather than a sleep­er hit. The respect it was accor­ded by sub­sequent acquaint­ances who clearly knew bet­ter than I did was also influ­en­tial. For instance, Michael Weldon in the Psychotronic Encyclopedia of Film: “Of course it’s an expens­ive B‑movie, but it’s also fas­cin­at­ing, well-made, and the scar­i­est science-fiction film in ages.” (Interestingly, though, as B‑movies go, it was­n’t THAT expens­ive. Still. Michael was con­vers­ant with the work of Andy Milligan.) I’ve since rewatched it, enjoyed it, and been frightened by it, a num­ber of times. But I have to con­fess I felt no rev­er­ence to it on my first. 

Point being? I’m not entirely sure. Except that when the next Alien comes around, it’s not going to be made by the people who made the first Alien. It’s gonna have been made by a bunch of people we’re not all that famil­i­ar with. And when and if it comes around, I hope I have the eyes to see it for what it is, and if not quite that, to actu­ally enjoy it. 

UPDATE: The afore­men­tioned Mr. Joseph Failla has some thoughts for me, and you:

I can excuse your ram­bunc­tious out­bursts at that first screen­ing of ALIEN as your way of deal­ing with the unbear­able ten­sion the film had gen­er­ated right from the start. Even though there was a strong buzz before the film had opened (I remem­ber months pri­or to it’s première, a huge black and white Times Square bill­board fea­tur­ing unusu­al art work not fea­tured in any of the later advert­ise­ments), noth­ing we read or came across pre­pared us for that open­ing day exper­i­ence. The now defunct Stanley Warner theat­er in Paramus was Bergen County’s choice show­place and largest avail­able screen, so we could not have picked a bet­ter loc­ale to see it with hun­dreds of oth­er nervous view­ers. You may have been louder than the rest of us with your reac­tions but I think we were all caught up with the film’s unpre­dict­ab­il­ity that kept us guess­ing what was com­ing next. 

Up to this point, ’70s sci­ence fic­tion extra­vag­an­zas had been presen­ted clean and col­or­ful (only one epis­ode of STAR WARS had yet been released and the vis­it­ors of CLOSE ENCOUNTERS were friendly, benign beings) but ALIEN was dif­fer­ent, it was cold, cruel and grim, it presen­ted a night­mar­ish, unre­lent­ing cre­ation that had no appar­ent weak­ness. As BLADE RUNNER was still a few years away, ALIEN became the closest film com­pan­ion we had to our cop­ies of Heavy Metal magazine. Much of the cred­it for ALIEN’s unique­ness has to go to H.R. GIGER (or to those who had the geni­us to bring him on board to design the ali­en plan­et and it’s title char­ac­ter), the movie’s com­pletely ori­gin­al organ­ic look had me fas­cin­ated from the start and here is where com­par­is­ons to earli­er B‑movies cease to ring true (although I’d like to cite writer Dan O’Bannon’s low budget DARK STAR as a more imme­di­ate inspir­a­tion). Actually, if I had any con­cerns at all, was that the film’s first half (cli­max­ing with the still wrench­ing chest burst­ing scene) is so gor­geously grot­esque in depict­ing an ali­en envir­on­ment, over­shad­owed the later por­tions when it becomes a game of cat and mouse between the ali­en and the dimin­ish­ing num­ber of crew mem­bers onboard the cargo ship Nostromo. However I’ve amended that opin­ion some­what as I now find the most agon­iz­ing sequence to watch is Captain Dallas’ demise (or dis­ap­pear­ance depend­ing on which ver­sion you’re watch­ing) in the air shaft where the creature silently stalks him in the dark. The sus­pense here is truly palp­able as we sense the ali­en clos­ing in and hear Dallas’ pleas to be taken the hell out of there! A supremely ter­ri­fy­ing moment that has yet to be duplic­ated in any of the fol­lowup installments.

So while I’ve not seen PROMETHEUS yet, I’m approach­ing it with a cer­tain amount of cau­tion as ALIEN was always the kind of act that was vir­tu­ally impossible to fol­low. Of all the sequels only ALIENS works for me as a release of the first film’s taut­ness but at the same time seems to exist in a com­pletely dif­fer­ent uni­verse with Ripley emer­ging as one of the ’80s most trust­worthy action her­oes. Over time ALIEN itself has been idol­ized, san­it­ized and pop­ular­ized out of pro­por­tion but I still regard it today as the nuts and bolts of sci-fi/horror. I feel it’s only fit­ting for Scott to revis­it his ter­ror clas­sic with a fresh take but I can­’t say he did the ori­gin­al any favors by re-editing it some years back, quick­en­ing the pace of the eer­ily atmo­spher­ic first half and then bring­ing the excite­ment to a halt with the once deleted “cocoon scene” in the second just when it needs to keep mov­ing (a point he had defen­ded up until this ver­sion). I ques­tioned his hind­sight then and won­der where he’s com­ing from now bring­ing a whole new myth­o­logy into play that was nev­er part of ALIEN’s sleek stream­lined plan. No, I nev­er wor­ried what part the “space jockey” played in all this, I con­sidered him a curi­ous mys­tery that was best not explained (nor do I ask who the giant skel­et­on belongs to in PLANET OF THE VAMPIRES) but I do ques­tion if it will be worth sac­ri­fi­cing Del Toro’s pet MOUNTAINS OF MADNESS pro­ject for PROMETHEUS? I mean if the main stum­bling block pre­vent­ing Del Toro from see­ing this through was too large a budget for an R rated film, there was always a chance he would one day take anoth­er swipe at it but with PROMETHEUS tread­ing the same ground, will he ever again feel MOUNTAINS worth the effort to realize?

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  • Alvin Sloan says:

    I really like this post. That last para­graph, in par­tic­u­lar, is some­thing I need to print out and keep in my wal­let so I can con­sult it when I watch new movies.

  • I was 32 when I first saw “Alien.” it was in San Francisco and I went with my friend film­maker Wrren Sonbert. We both enjoyed it – espe­cially for its pro­duc­tion design and light­ing. I’ll nver for­get that week­end because it was when I dis­covered AIDS. A friend of Warren’s dropped by his house that day. He was rail thin, bald and wildly dis­trac­ted. He bor­rowed an opera recrd and lfet. Warren said he’d been dia­gnosed with a rare form of can­cer that none of the doc­tors he’d seen knew how to treat.
    Warren him­self died of AIDS in the mid-90s.

  • Matthias Galvin says:

    Not only was this a great mem­oir, but the head­line made me laugh. I took a quick look and thought that it was a The Onion headline.
    “And when and if it comes around, I hope I have the eyes to see it for what it is, and if not quite that, to actu­ally enjoy it. ”
    This reminds me of The Rise of the Planet of the Apes, when I almost was­n’t ready to take it ser­i­ously because of the ori­gin­al (and the *shud­der* remake) and the sequels to the ori­gin­al that I’d seen.
    It’s a funny thing that brand recog­ni­tion does to col­or someone’s anti­cip­a­tion (indeed the whole exper­i­ence), and I’m not sure any­body’s prop­erly figured out what to do with it and how it works. Well, one movie at a time I guess. Hopefully at least some of the people who made this movie will make the next one in the franchise.

  • Doug Cummings says:

    Interestingly, though, as B‑movies go, it was­n’t THAT expens­ive.” I believe in the DVD com­ment­ary, Ridley Scott says one of the film’s most beau­ti­ful shots, a glow­ing sun rising over a sil­hou­et­ted ali­en land­scape, was merely a stage light turned dir­ectly at the camera.
    I haven’t seen “Prometheus” yet, but I enjoyed your com­ments, Glenn, and I’m reminded that both of Scott’s earli­er (now routinely christened) “SF mas­ter­pieces” were roundly dis­missed for years; it was­n’t until the ’90s and bey­ond that “Blade Runner” was widely described as any­thing oth­er than a muddled, over­pro­duced, box office flop. I happened to be an early devotee, and I vividly recall watch­ing the crit­ic­al tide shift on that one.

  • Bruce Reid says:

    …try and look at movies with respect to what was actu­ally on the screen and with less of an urge to out­smart what I was look­ing at.”
    One of the key crit­ic­al attrib­utes that sep­ar­ates the wheat from the chaff. Sometimes I can be well into a movie before real­iz­ing it’s been ahead of me all along, and that moment is always equally thrill­ing (for the movie) and embar­rass­ing (for myself, still tripped up by juven­ile superi­or­ity). Like Alvin says, words to live by.

  • Thomas D. says:

    My mom actu­ally saw ALIEN while she was preg­nant with me, so it might be said that I saw the movie from the ali­en’s per­spect­ive. She later took me to see ALIENS in the theat­er, so I like to think I have a well roun­ded per­spect­ive on the fran­chise, untain­ted by grown-up cynicism (?).
    I think ALIEN dif­fer­en­ti­ates itself from the likes of IT! THE TERROR FROM BEYOND SPACE not only in terms of budget, but in terms of char­ac­ter, cre­at­ing claus­tro­pho­bia, and in estab­lish­ing and then con­strain­ing phys­ic­al space. I don’t think that call­ing it “a gen­er­ic B‑movie with a bunch of money pumped into it” is fair. I think HALLOWEEN did some­thing com­par­able to a gen­er­ic slash­er script, but without need­ing the budget to do so (in fair­ness, it took place in the sub­urbs and not on a spaceship).
    I find it amus­ing that Andy Milligan has now become a point of ref­er­ence for nor­mal people. Ten years ago or so, if you tried to engage someone on the top­ic of Milligan’s films, you’d prob­ably be dis­missed as a glue-huffing cretin.

  • Glenn Kenny says:

    @ Thomas D: Ha! My mom and dad saw “Psycho” at a drive-in, with nearly one-year-old me sit­ting between them, and my mom preg­nant with my sis­ter. This has been con­sist­ent fod­der for a lot of fam­ily humor.
    Re Milligan: Yeah, cinephil­ia marches on, huh?

  • Thomas D. says:

    Well, you win. I did see ROCKY HORROR at a drive-in with my par­ents when I was 5, and I think “awk­ward” is the only way to describe that experience.
    Speaking of which, I have the BFI NIGHTBIRDS Blu-ray sit­ting on top of my “to watch” pile. I’d have soon­er thought we’d see a blu-ray of THE DAY THE CLOWN CRIED with a drunk Jerry Lewis com­ment­ary before we’d see that.

  • LondonLee says:

    ALIEN freaked me out so much I was con­vinced the cat was going to burst open and a baby creature come out and kill Sigourney Weaver dur­ing the end credits.
    I do remem­ber being rather under­whelmed by BLADE RUNNER though, and it’s cur­rent status irks me a little. It does look fant­ast­ic obvi­ously and has got­ten bet­ter since they got rid of Ford’s “hard-boiled” voi­ceover but I can­’t escape my memory of groan­ing over it the first time.

  • Tom Block says:

    I like “Blade Runner” okay (Scott’s cut, I mean), but that was, or was close to, the begin­ning of fan­boy pro­fund­ity. All that breath­less spec­u­la­tion about wheth­er Deckard was human or not, and what does everything mean if he IS human or if he ISN’T–it’s like, man, what the fuck have you people been *drink­ing*! Get off it, right now! If that crap could’ve been toned down in the ’80s and ’90s, maybe we would­n’t be mis­tak­ing The Dark Knight for the return of Wittgenstein today.
    I don’t remem­ber any big buildup for “Alien”. Maybe there was, but I was fol­low­ing the buzz reli­giously back then and don’t recall it. What I *do* remem­ber was being sur­prised 2–3 weeks into its run when people kept telling me about this amaz­ing scene in it I just HAD to see–something that impressed them more than Sigourney Weaver in her tank-top and panties. Anyway, I just love the low-key way the act­ors talk to each oth­er and the con­vin­cing sense that they’re blue-collar shlubs who just hap­pen to work in space. It felt like Scott had been pig­ging out on a steady diet of noth­ing but Hawks/Nyby for weeks.

  • Steven Hart says:

    I saw it in NYC with a bunch of friends, either day one or close enough thereto. One was a bud­ding spe­cial effects tech­ni­cian, the oth­er was a devotee of Starlog, and we all three of us loved SF. There was buzz all right – I think there was a com­ic adapt­a­tion being seri­al­ized in Heavy Metal. (I used to have my YOU ARE MY LUCKY STAR but­ton, which was handed out at the theat­er.) I thought then, and I still think, the second half fails the creepy ori­gin­al­ity and bril­liant design of the first half. I wanted some­thing bet­ter than the stand­ard fun­house routine where the heroine sets the ship for self-destruct, then has to run down a long cor­ridor full of blind corners, steam jets, and strobe lights appar­ently designed to make sure nobody will make it off the ship alive. I think James Cameron’s retool­ing was good enough to improve the first movie in hindsight.
    I, too, was fre­quently an asshole back then, but not where “Alien” was con­cerned. Brilliant open­ing, barely adequate con­clu­sion. Thought it then. Think it now.

  • First saw ‘Alien’ on 4:3 Fox video(crudely pan and scanned with a third of the pic­ture bru­tally sawn off as Jim Cameron used to say)and it was pretty amaz­ing, my first encounter with sci-fi art cinema. A later view­ing of it in 2.35:1 took my breath away, the widescreen com­pos­i­tions were a mar­vel. Next time I watch it i’m going to try and for­get that the space jockey is just a suit and under­neath is a cross between Molasar from ‘The Keep’ and the blue dude from ‘Watchmen’.

  • Don R. Lewis says:

    Good stuff, Glenn. And I so much agree with your point (or what I think is your point, or part of it) about these loud­mouth, bully “taste­m­aker” blog­gers. Not say­ing every­one needs a film PEDIGREE to write intel­li­gently about film but life exper­i­ence nev­er hurts. It’s not all about this is GOOD or this SUCKS. But since that’s nev­er going to happen…
    I’m run­ning through the ALIEN fran­chise before my PROMETHEUS view­ing this week­end and I’m pretty hung up on ALIEN and what it’s vari­ous insight­ful essays really *mean*, espe­cially the ones about the sexu­al sig­ni­fi­ers and the fem­in­ist slant on the film. I haven’t watched the film in a good 10–15 years and since that time have (hope­fully) gained more insight into cinema, psy­cho­logy, philo­sophy and all that stuff. That being said hav­ing watched it again, there is SO MUCH sexu­al innu­endo in ALIEN and I KNOW it’s there. It’s clear as day (sphinc­ter muscle air vents, Lamberts death/rape, Ash’s android juice facial…just to be crass) but part of me simply can­not believe Ridley Scott MEANT these things.
    I mean, I think Ripley as a fem­in­ist hero needs zero dis­cus­sion and I think the polit­ics of that in the late 70’s informed that. But the rest of it? I just don’t buy that Scott *meant* it. But yet, it’s there. Yet Ridley Scott isn’t much for the sub­vers­ive or the alleg­or­ic­al, I don’t think. Why would he do such a thing ONE TIME? Or, did he? I guess I don’t buy it is what I’m saying.
    Before Glenn and I became blo­gem­ies these were the kinds of ques­tions I have about film in gen­er­al and few writers that are still work­ing are as cap­able or “will­ing” to dis­cuss such things as Glenn was/is. It’s what drew me to your work at Première and that kick-ass blog that evolved. But that his­tory is neither here nor there.
    My ques­tion is: Is ALIEN truly a deep explor­a­tion of fem­in­ism or did some pro­duc­tion design­ers have some fun behind Sir Ridley’s back? If he “meant” it, why did­n’t he con­tin­ue explor­ing these ideas since ALIEN was so suc­cess­ful? Ugh.…I hate film criticism.

  • jbryant says:

    At the height of puberty, I sat between my mom and dad at a drive-in show­ing of THE LAST PICTURE SHOW. Full-frontal 21-year-old Cybill Shepherd. I’m sur­prised I did­n’t spon­tan­eously combust…or something.
    I think I’m no more than a couple of years older than Glenn, and I remem­ber lik­ing ALIEN pretty well right off the bat. I don’t think I fully appre­ci­ated it, how­ever, until a mid­night show­ing back in the late 90s or so. I haven’t warmed to much of Scott’s oth­er work though. I’ll try to check out PROMETHEUS.

  • Glenn Kenny says:

    @ jbry­ant, I don’t know if I’ve told the story of my GRANDMOTHER tak­ing me to see “Frenzy” at my request when I was twelve. Most awk­ward. Car ride home. Ever.
    @Don Lewis, thanks for your thought­ful com­ment. I’m will­ing to put our blo­gem­ies thing behind us if you are. For real, no relapses, I won’t do a Lucy-with-the-football act on you. Just put­ting it out there.

  • Patrick says:

    For some reas­on, I asso­ci­ate Alien with the first time I saw the Siskel and Ebert show, back when it was just start­ing on PBS, Alien was one of the movies they reviewed, I think it has stuck with me because their show seemed such a fresh idea. (they did like Alien I seem to recall) I also note that I’m 5 years older than Glenn.

  • Shane says:

    This is one of my biggest frus­tra­tions with mod­ern movie ‘cri­ti­cism’ – the ‘fan­boy abso­lutes’. This movie is awe­some or this movie sucks. Reading responses to Ridley Scott’s Robin Hood was bewil­der­ing. What movie was every­one else see­ing the ‘sucked’ so much. I thor­oughly enjoyed it. Sure it was a bit silly towards the end but, for the most part, it was an enjoy­able new take on the myth, very well made, and not aimed at 14 year old boys. ‘NO’ appar­ently I’m incor­rect, it ‘sucked’. I throw my hands up.

  • I have always liked ALIEN, and it keeps rising in my estim­a­tion – my recent encounter with the Blu-ray con­firmed that. It’s really beau­ti­fully made. It’s inter­est­ing to me to look at each ALIEN film not as a part of a fran­chise (well, okay, yes you do, duh), but as a demon­stra­tion of what each dir­ect­or was like – at least at the time they made their film. Cameron’s rarely shown an affin­ity for hor­ror, or “space hor­ror,” but in his film you’ve got the Space Marines and unmanned (deep-space instead of deep-sea) probe-bots, and isn’t Ripley a lady-from-yesteryear, telling her tale, at the begin­ning? And I’m sure he could­n’t wait to improve those low-altitude air­craft for AVATAR.
    It’s hard to con­nect the Ridley from ALIEN to the dir­ect­or of ROBIN HOOD – a film I main­tain is pretty good for about the first 40 some-odd minutes – but there seems to be a stronger con­nec­tion to the Brit cinema of its day, just get­ting into the shaky-cam, very much under the influ­ence of the Roeg-Lester takeover… not at all a feel­ing I get from Cameron’s sequel.
    Of course if we are talk­ing “authors” you have to fol­low the path of HR Giger and Dan O’Bannon as well. http://www.slantmagazine.com/film/feature/shock-value-dan-obannon/265
    And, in the lar­ger pic­ture, Ridley Scott’s “first three” unques­tion­ably eclipse his later work, although lots of movies he’s made since are good, really good, or (weird­est of all) start out well but inev­it­ably nose­dive in their second or third acts…
    Note! Hate to be “that guy” but it’s IT! THE TERROR FROM BEYOND SPACE, not X! Unless there’s an altern­ate title or that’s just what your friend said, etc.
    And on that tan­gent, IT! is on Netflix Instant for any know-something-ish 19-year-old or seen-almost-everything 50-something to check out. While it does­n’t stack up to ALIEN, it’s really good in its way – the best film that I’ve seen from “micro-auteur” Edward L. Cahn. Under its no-budget con­straints it is a grace­ful, supple little hunk of sci-fi.

  • Fanboy absoules” are play­ing a mjor role in the reac­tion to the Scot/Car contretemps as reflec­ted here –
    http://blogs.suntimes.com/scanners/2012/06/ao_scott_on_criticism_this_is_.html
    Truly depress­ing. Anti-intellectualism is now regarded as a badge of honor.

  • Paul Duane says:

    I remem­ber see­ing Alien in the cinema when I was, what? 12? 13? and next day beg­ging my par­ents for some extra pock­et money so I could go back and see it again. They refused and I nev­er really for­gave them. It lives in my mind much more so than the exper­i­ence of see­ing Blade Runner (though THAT I did man­age to go see twice in one week). Alien is some­where bur­ied deep inside me and it’ll nev­er go away, not even after the hor­rible dis­ap­point­ment of Prometheus, which I take as an illit­er­ate attempt to mutil­ate everything beau­ti­ful about the earli­er film.
    Oh, and at one point I lived in the same London apart­ment that Andy Milligan lived in when he made Nightbirds. It came as quite a shock to me to find that out. He left some strange, spooky vibes after him, too.

  • MarkVH says:

    For me, Alien just con­tin­ues to get bet­ter and bet­ter with each passing year, and I still con­sider it to be Scott’s best film to date by a coun­try mile. I remem­ber first see­ing it at about 9 or 10 with my par­ents on TV when we were on vaca­tion and not being able to sleep for the entire remainder of the trip.
    With all the atten­tion paid to the pro­duc­tion design and visu­als, how come the sound design is so rarely men­tioned? I’ve always con­sidered it to be the film’s strongest aspect and, more than any­thing, the one that con­trib­utes most con­sist­ently to its over­whelm­ing sense of dread.

  • Andrew Wyatt says:

    Don:
    Recall that Scott *did* make G.I. JANE and THELMA & LOUISE, two of the bet­ter films with expli­cit fem­in­ist themes to come out of main­stream Hollywood in the 1990s. I’m not neces­sar­ily dis­agree­ing with your skep­ti­cism re: ALIEN’s fem­in­ism, but it’s not incon­ceiv­able that Scott had fem­in­ism on his mind even at that early date.

  • Dan Humphrey says:

    Why does it mat­ter wheth­er Scott inten­ded the film to have a fem­in­ist theme or not, or wheth­er he was con­sciously orches­trat­ing such a theme via the art dir­ec­tion? The first thing one learns in Film Analysis 101 is that inten­tion­al­ity is com­pletely beside the point. The issue should be what’s up there on the screen, not how it got there.

  • Andrew Wyatt says:

    Dan:
    You’re cor­rect to an extent. Yes, authori­al intent does­n’t *really* mat­ter in Film Analysis 101, as you say, and if one wants to craft a fem­in­ist ana­lys­is of ALIEN, one can cer­tainly do that, regard­less of what Scott or any of the oth­er film­makers involved “really” intended.
    However, I was respond­ing to Don’s asser­tion that a fem­in­ist read­ing is argu­able silly, since Scott has exhib­ited no sub­sequent interest in fem­in­ist themes. And that just seems counter-factual, giv­en, again, G.I. JANE and THELMA & LOUISE. (And, to an extent, HANNIBAL and MATCHSTICK MEN as well.) So, yeah, per­haps we’re arguing about some­thing that does­n’t really mat­ter in the realms of rig­or­ously text-centered cri­ti­cism. But it still raises a red flag for me when whole swaths of a dir­ect­or’s oeuvre are dis­reg­arded for con­veni­ence’s sake.

  • LondonLee says:

    Ridley Scott may or may not have “meant” the feminist/sexual power sub­text in ALIEN but HR Giger knew what he was doing.

  • Having atten­ded one of those august insti­tu­tions where “film ana­lys­is” serves as one of the sup­port beams, it might interest some of you to know that, in such places, “what’s up on the screen” takes a reclin­ing back­seat to fem­in­ist read­ings and gender “per­form­ativ­ity” and all that wot. Artist inten­tion­al­ity tends to be passed over with little comment.
    Of course, being a cro magnon auteur­ist crit­ic then as I am now, I fled that com­munity just as soon as I had my dip­loma in my (knuckles-to-pavement) hands. But that’s anoth­er story.

  • Jette says:

    Was talk­ing the oth­er day about the first truly shock­ing film I ever saw, in terms of sex and blood onscreen, etc. and real­ized it was­n’t MASH (which I saw as a sheltered Catholic teen think­ing it would be like the TV show) but rather ALIEN, when I was about 12. My little broth­er and I were invited to an eld­erly neigh­bor’s house to watch it via their brand-new cable access. The neigh­bor did­n’t quite real­ize the film might not be appro­pri­ate for an 8‑year-old and 12-year-old. It was the first time a movie really frightened and shocked me, although I did­n’t tell any­one that at the time. Probably the first unedited-for-TV R‑rated movie I saw.
    Years later, I was in a screen­writ­ing class and the instruct­or told us we were about to see a movie about the power of cor­por­a­tions and how they affect the work­ing class (or some­thing like that) and sur­prised us with ALIEN. Less shocked, but more enter­tained than at age 12.

  • Funny you should say that, Jette – I revis­ited ROBOCOP the oth­er day (it’s aged bet­ter than many oth­er block­busters from the same peri­od), and while its depic­tion of viol­ence (and the ’80s Alpha Male atti­tude that under­writes it) in the cor­por­ate work­place has a delib­er­ately over-the-top edge, part of me kept think­ing, Hey, just anoth­er day at the office at Sterling Cooper Draper Pryce.

  • Don R. Lewis says:

    Dan/Andrew-
    I guess my point was more aimed at MY issues with film cri­ti­cism and how alot of it seems like stick­ing a square peg in a round hole for the sake of for­cing film to be art. I’ve got a mas­ters in film stud­ies and through­out my time in school I had more “oh, that’s bulllll­shit” moments than “wow, how insight­ful!” ones. Not to say film can­not be art and that polit­ics, social atti­tudes and all sorts of oth­er things go into cre­at­ing a film but much like that bril­liant doc ROOM 237 on the vari­ous “mean­ings” of THE SHINING, it’s pretty easy to slap a mean­ing on any old thing and claim it right due to intellectualism.
    To be clear- I DO think ALIEN is a nod to fem­in­ism and that THELMA AND LOUSIE and GI JANE com­ment was well played, I for­got about those. But all the weird sexu­al­ity stuff in ALIEN, like I said, is clearly there.…or is it? Did Scott mean it to be and if so, what’s he really say­ing? Etc.
    And Glenn, I’m totally down for a truce. Fighting on the inter­nets is silly and a huge waste of time and energy.

  • Shane says:

    As all good film crit­ics say – ‘You just make the movie, I’ll tell you what it’s about’.

  • Josh Z says:

    @Don, as LondonLee pos­ted above, even if Ridley Scott did­n’t fully intend all the sexu­al imagery in Alien, H.R. Giger cer­tainly did. I’d have to ima­gine that Scott was aware of what Giger was doing and agreed to go along with it, even if it was­n’t his idea first.
    Considering that Scott’s new pre­quel fea­tures a scene where a not-subtle-at-all albino penis hisses at two of the char­ac­ters, I’d say that he’s fully on board with the sexu­al imagery in the series now.

  • Shane says:

    @Josh – I had to laugh at that scene (stu­pid char­ac­ter actions aside) when the Rafe Spall char­ac­ter says ‘clearly it’s a girl’ …?…I looks like a big penis!

  • jim emerson says:

    Love this, Glenn. You inspired me to add some­thing about it to my own post, since my first encounter with “Alien” was mem­or­able in a totally dif­fer­ent way… (P.S. I’m usu­ally well-behaved once the lights go down, but I’m hor­ri­fied to think of the pom­pous wind­bag­gery I released into the air before the movie star­ted and after it was over, just for the sake of mak­ing conversation…)

  • jim emerson says:

    Just read some of the oth­er com­ments and would like to chime in:
    Shane: “You just make the movie, I’ll tell you what it’s about.” True! Any film­maker can tell you that’s true of all audi­ences, not just crit­ics. Once the movie is released, it no longer belongs to its makers. Whatever’s there on the screen for people to react to and inter­pret is fair game. Who can say what every­one’s inten­tions were? (The more instinctu­al film­makers, like maybe David Lynch or Terrence Malick, might admit they aren’t sure them­selves; they do what feels right to them without over­ana­lyz­ing it before they do it.)
    Speaking of that: Your story, David, reminds me of the response to Cronenberg’s “The Fly” in 1986. Most of the people I knew who died of AIDS did so in the mid- to late-80s. It was so much on people’s minds that many saw “The Fly” as a meta­phor for AIDS. Cronenberg later said he did­n’t think of it that way (he’d just been think­ing of an accel­er­ated ver­sion of nat­ur­al aging, the invari­able “betray­al” of the body that every­one goes through as they age, not an immun­ode­fi­ciency vir­us). But, he acknow­ledged, the meta­phor works.
    Don R. Lewis: I can­’t speak for Ridley Scott, but the sexu­al meta­phors are so organ­ic in “Alien” (in the story, the design, the effects, the way it’s shot) that if Scott was­n’t aware of them con­sciously, he was sure work­ing with them sub­con­sciously. (Remember, too, that in 1979, we did­n’t KNOW that the ali­ens impreg­nated humans and used them as cocoons – that was in the script, but not in the released ver­sion of the movie.) Years after “Alien,” Dan O’Bannon said: “One thing that people are all dis­turbed about is sex… I said ‘That’s how I’m going to attack the audi­ence; I’m going to attack them sexu­ally. And I’m not going to go after the women in the audi­ence, I’m going to attack the men. I am going to put in every image I can think of to make the men in the audi­ence cross their legs. Homosexual oral rape, birth. The thing lays its eggs down your throat, the whole num­ber.” So, what “Alien” does with that is open to inter­pret­a­tion… but there you are.
    Tom: re “begin­ning of fan­boy pro­fund­ity”: Thank you for this: “If that crap could’ve been toned down in the ’80s and ’90s, maybe we would­n’t be mis­tak­ing The Dark Knight for the return of Wittgenstein today.”
    And Jaime: Those “first three” are the ones, all right. I’ve always felt that “Blade Runner” was less than meets the eye (as some auteur­ist crit­ic once said…), but it improved quite a bit when they jet­tisoned that hor­rible nar­ra­tion that Harrison Ford said he delivered under duress. For me, everything since has been a let­down, as you say. Sometimes you can just feel the movies fall­ing apart before your eyes – just when they should be coales­cing and gath­er­ing momentum…