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A prophet

By December 28, 2012January 12th, 202649 Comments

Take note of this December 13 Twitter exchange…

Prophecy

Lo and behold, on December 24, when I was­n’t pay­ing atten­tion, the Esquire web­site put up “DJANGO UNCHAINED IS A BETTER MOVIE ABOUT SLAVERY THAN LINCOLN” and to be hon­est with you I could­n’t have picked a more apt know-somethingish pseud twit to write it than Stephen “Bön” Marche, who in fact did. Lulz, as the kids like to say. 

49 Comments

  • Eddie Carmel says:

    Wow. Reading that ESQUIRE piece made me not just want to avoid DJANGO but also stay as far away as pos­sible. (Well, that and QT’s mostly idi­ot­ic inter­view with Henry Louis Gates where he calls John Ford not just a racist but also a evil per­son, though poin­tedly does not men­tion how he stole Ford’s SEARCHERS shot for INGLOURIOUS BASTERDS.)

  • Asher says:

    I think slant kind of said the same thing, but in a less absurd way:
    ” Unlike the mawk­ish lib­er­al pan­der­ing of this year’s oth­er Civil War-era stu­dio epic, Steven Spielberg’s Lincoln, at least Django Unchained’s post-racial leap back into America’s bifurc­ated past is over­loaded enough be plaus­ibly con­strued as com­plex. To this end, per­haps the most intriguing, con­struct­ive wrinkle in Tarantino’s revi­sion­ist fab­ric is Steven…”
    I did­n’t really see what was so pander‑y about Lincoln, not that I was over­whelmed by it either.

  • RIP Harry Carey, Jr. (who I hope did­n’t hear about Tarantino’s Ford com­ments in his final days).

  • Jeff McMahon says:

    I thought Lincoln was more about legis­lat­ive polit­ics than race, but what do I know.

  • Louis Godfrey says:

    It’s a silly argu­ment a fool’s errand to try to stack the two next to each oth­er in terms of what they “say about slavery.” I like Django quite a bit more than Glenn does, but defend it on its mer­its, not at the expens­ive of anoth­er film (which, I, ahem, still have not yet seen…).

  • Dan Coyle says:

    I think the most amaz­ing thing about this piece is it did­n’t appear at Breitbart first.

  • Noam Sane says:

    Well who cares, Tarantino is a juven­ile phil­istine who’s not fit to smell the glove. I hear.

  • I’ms sur­prised Quentin did­n’t cast Tyler Perry as “Broomhilda.”

  • Shamus says:

    Someone should tell QT that try­ing too hard to be out­rageous is the surest sign of an asshole. And the only zom­bie here is the mind­less, pat­ently false “John Ford was a racist” accus­a­tion, which refuses to die.

  • Don R. Lewis says:

    I can­’t believe the level of lip-service being giv­en to one flip­pant OPINION shared by Tarantino. I’m not defend­ing what he said (although I think it *might* bear some con­sid­er­a­tion, and also could add to the themes of Ford’s work that changed as he got older, espe­cially in terms of race…if he really was KKK *inclined*) but really, who cares? I like the fact someone said some­thing unpop­u­lar and it’s no reas­on to boy­cott DJANGO UNCHAINED.

  • george says:

    QT thinks Ford was racist, but one of his favor­ite movies is “Mandingo,” which seems to be the main inspir­a­tion for his new movie. I heard him on NPR yes­ter­day deny­ing that “Django Unchained” is an exploit­a­tion film, which seems laugh­able based on reviews I’ve read (I haven’t seen it yet).
    But with QT, you nev­er know if he’s being ser­i­ous or if he’s just try­ing to get atten­tion by being outrageous.

  • Mandingo” is most def­in­itely NOT a racist movie.

  • george says:

    Mandingo” may not be racist, but it most def­in­itely IS an exploit­a­tion movie. Its goal was to tit­il­late audi­ences with inter­ra­cial sex, and inflame them with scenes of racial violence.
    QT appar­ently got the idea of “mandingo fight­ing” from the 1975 movie. It did­n’t exist in the real Old South, accord­ing to a Slate article.

  • Michael Worrall says:

    @George: Read Robin Wood’s “Mandingo: The Vindication of an Abused Masterpiece” and go back and watch the film. You may find your claim of the film’s “goal” to be a misreading.

  • Petey says:

    Will someone please wake me up when the Two Minute Hate of Tarantino is finished…

  • Glenn Kenny says:

    Please wake me up when the Two Minute Hate of Tarantino is fin­ished.” Oh, please. I did­n’t like his movie, and was dis­ap­poin­ted in it. His inter­view infe­li­cit­ies are irritation/disappointment bonus points, noth­ing more. But to huff and puff that he’s being made into some kind of mar­tyr is pure bull­shit. He is, as the say­ing goes, a grown-ass man who knows what he’s doing and say­ing. And his pro­voca­tions, aside from their dis­tor­tions, are just trans­par­ently pan­der­ing. he can but­ter up “Skip” Gates all he pleases, but, as Armond White or who­ever writes his head­lines for him rather aptly put it, he’s “Still Not A Brother.” Whatever push­back he gets, it was requested.
    Although I haven’t heard of a boy­cott, which I would­n’t per­son­ally endorse if I had. Although it would be funny to see wheth­er a boy­cott of “Django” on behalf of out­raged John Ford fans would cost the movie one or two thou­sand dol­lars worth of box office receipts.

  • Petey says:

    Oh, please. I did­n’t like his movie, and was dis­ap­poin­ted in it.”
    I had bet­ter feel­ings about the movie than you did, but I’ve got no quar­rel with your take. I just find the whole crowd shift­ing into Two Minute Hate mode to be more than a bit tire­some and mis­guided. I’m not try­ing to make him a mar­tyr, but he ain’t sud­denly Satan either.
    “…but, as Armond White…”
    I rest my case.

  • Don R. Lewis says:

    Although it would be funny to see wheth­er a boy­cott of “Django” on behalf of out­raged John Ford fans would cost the movie one or two thou­sand dol­lars worth of box office receipts.”
    Well played!
    And Glenn, I do agree with much of your review and your com­ments about QT’s media man­age­ment skills, but I was more address­ing the fact that all these John Ford fans are out­raged by a (pos­sibly) fair claim about a true mas­ters per­son­al life. I mean, Elia Kazan and Roman Polanski deal/dealt with the choices they made in real life, why does Ford get a pass? Or is QT full of shit? Or is Ford a reflec­tion of his times and upbring­ing? Does it mat­ter? I just like that Tarantino expressed an unpop­u­lar opin­ion rather than stick­ing with the same olé same olé. Ironically, spike Lee is catch­ing grief for boy­cot­ting DJANGO so.…around and around we go.
    Also- I apo­lo­gize in advance for invok­ing Polanski’s name, please people.…let’s not to that argu­ment here. I beg you!

  • Glenn Kenny says:

    Don, point taken. I’ll just say that while it’s pretty plain that Ford was a pretty ornery son of a bitch in real-life and that it is entirely prob­able that said ornery­ness took a myri­ad of forms, in terms of anec­dot­al evid­ence, the scales tend to tilt more in favor of anti-racist than racist. Then there are the films them­selves. Even in some­thing like “Stagecoach,” which is the most blatant in its por­tray­al of American Indians as face­less maraud­ing Others, there’s more sens­it­iv­ity and craft­i­ness in the acknow­ledge­ment of the slip­pery ter­rains of race rela­tions than in almost any oth­er Westerns of the time, as in the stuff with the innkeep­er at Apache Wells. Some insist that the char­ac­ter­iz­a­tions here are wholly neg­at­ive, but the brinks­man­ship on dis­play and the tone in which it’s con­veyed sug­gest, at least to this view­er, that it’s not the par­ti­cipants who are per­verse, but the situ­ation in which they exist. Similarly, in a pic­ture such as “Fort Apache,” a com­pletely avoid­able con­flict is brought to a tra­gic end because of a mar­tin­et white com­mand­er hell-bent on achiev­ing some­thing like mani­fest des­tiny, and so on. Again, all of this is argu­able, but it strongly sug­gests that say­ing “John Ford put on a Klan hood for D.W. Griffith and he rode…he rode HARD” and being done with it is some­thing like an over­sim­pli­fic­a­tion. To say the least.

  • george says:

    Tarantino does make one val­id point in the Gates inter­view, about the hor­rif­ic racism of Thomas Dixon’s nov­els. As racist as “Birth of a Nation” is, Dixon’s nov­els “The Clansman” and “The Leopard’s Spots” are even more appalling.
    And these were nation­al best-sellers – which means it was­n’t just white Southerners who bought them – and they inspired the first block­buster movie. This was the coun­try that John Ford grew up in.

  • george says:

    My main prob­lem with QT, over the last dec­ade, has been the repet­it­ive nature of his work, the obsess­ive focus on viol­ent retri­bu­tion in all his films since “Kill Bill.” He does the “Death Wish”/“Dirty Harry” trick of cre­at­ing vil­lains so loath­some and irre­deem­able, the audi­ence will cheer for any bru­tal­ity the hero inflicts on them.
    He cre­ates straw men to be knocked down. What can be more vile than a woman-hating seri­al killer (Kurt Russell in “Death-Proof”), a Jew-hating Nazi (Waltz in “Basterds”) or a racist plant­a­tion own­er (DiCaprio in “Django”). As crit­ic David Edelstein said, QT’s “mor­al­ity” is very lazy. We’re sup­posed to get off whenev­er a white slave-owner is blown away in some gar­ish way.

  • jbryant says:

    Or is QT full of shit? Or is Ford a reflec­tion of his times and upbring­ing? Does it matter?”
    I’d say yes, yes and yes. Ford was one of the few golden age dir­ect­ors who actu­ally dealt with race head on in some of his films, and his atti­tudes toward it clearly evolved and were often com­plex. QT’s beloved Howard Hawks (whom I’ve often seen referred to as a racist and anti-Semite) rarely addressed the issue at all in his work, so I guess he’s off the hook.
    I saw DJANGO today, and liked it a lot. But QT’s com­ments about Ford are either ill-informed or will­fully ignore a sig­ni­fic­ant por­tion of his work. The man was no Stanley Kramer (in more ways than one, thank God), but I don’t think it’s fair to paint him as an irre­deem­able racist because he wore Klan robes as a teen­age extra in BIRTH OF A NATION and­some of his films have dated depic­tions of Native Americans. And did NONE of William Witney’s many Westerns have sim­il­ar depic­tions? Seems unlikely, but I haven’t seen enough of them to know.

  • Petey says:

    How often does one get a chance to have a rel­ev­ant reas­on to pop in a Haysi Fantayzee reference?
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tSKuxVNBC34

  • george says:

    http://www.salon.com/2012/12/26/tarantinos_incoherent_three_hour_bloodbath/
    Andrew O’Heir’s hil­ari­ous take­down of the “inco­her­ent three-hour bloodbath.”
    My favor­ite line: “Lately Tarantino appears to have drif­ted into the hip­ster equi­val­ent of George Lucas-land, where every­one around him agrees with his dumb ideas and nobody dares to observe that the movies are fatally undis­cip­lined and way too long and not really about anything.”

  • D says:

    1) On the errors and pan­der­ing of LINCOLN:
    http://www.thenation.com/blog/171461/trouble-steven-spielbergs-lincoln
    Additionally, the mise en scene includes sev­er­al rev­er­en­tial gazes from black char­ac­ters toward Lincoln. The film has no aware­ness of Lincoln’s con­flic­ted atti­tude toward blacks:
    http://www.theroot.com/views/was-lincoln-racist?page=0,0
    Also, when Thaddeus Stevens gets into bed with his common-law wife, the two-shot is nar­rowed down to a close-up on the white char­ac­ter, ren­der­ing super­flu­ous the black char­ac­ter who had just shared the screen moments ago.
    This simplist­ic exal­ta­tion of Lincoln against the fact of a his­tor­ic­al record that is far more complex/conflicted is what causes LINCOLN to pander to its audience.
    2) I admit that I have nev­er been a Tarantino fan. INGLORIOUS BASTERDS was the first film of his for which I had any regard. I do find, how­ever, that DJANGO UNCHAINED is a good film. DU avoids the overly fussy/insular feel­ing his movies have had for me. DU is expans­ive, provid­ing a view­er space to respond. O’Hehir misses a pre­ci­sion in this film which I had exper­i­enced as over-determined and suf­foc­at­ing in QT’s earli­er efforts, but I think he is wrong when he avers that Tarantino is just “pre­tend­ing to raise these so-called ques­tions.” Tarantino does raise the ques­tions and they are any­thing but so-called.
    Also, O’Hehir’s charge of inco­her­ence does not seem right when he is able to lay out clearly how the film does cohere even if it does sprawl – I won­der if the coher­ence he asks for is actu­ally a request for defin­it­ive­ness – http://criticallegalthinking.com/2012/02/20/is-history-a-coherent-story/
    Glenn’s view that the film is unfocused seems to be one way to exper­i­ence it, but to me the movie is epis­od­ic, not unfocused. By loosen­ing the nar­rat­ive reins, Tarantino achieves a relaxed coher­ence where the story he tells is one ver­sion offered in dia­lectic with earli­er ver­sions of the same his­tory – and which (in oppos­i­tion to his earli­er films) allows space for a view­er to cri­tique and then con­struct her own ver­sion in response. DU is not an art work that is sealed off from the world, but rather engages it – strad­dling the bor­der of late mod­ern­ism and post­mod­ern­ism in a refresh­ing way. LINCOLN by con­trast is mod­ern­ist (in its reac­tion­ary mani­fest­a­tion), offer­ing up hagi­o­graphy to be hosan­naed. Where DU visu­al­izes how his­tory was written/inflicted on black bod­ies, LINCOLN mostly keeps black bod­ies in shad­ow and off to the side, acknow­ledging them only to elide them.
    Brian Dauth

  • Shamus says:

    I like what jbry­ant has writ­ten about Ford and Hawks: accord­ing to one of Ford’s bio­graph­ers, no oth­er Hollywood film-maker in the pre-war era ever raised such con­tro­ver­sial sub­jects as race rela­tions in their films, ever. By con­trast, Ford filmed a scene in JUDGE PRIEST where Will Rogers’s char­ac­ter averts a lynch­ing and deliv­ers a pas­sion­ate protest – this was at a time the viol­ence against African Americans was still hor­rific­ally great. The stu­dio simply cut the scene from the film, so Ford later re-made the film for Republic solely for the sake for shoot­ing that scene and includ­ing it in the final cut (although this was much later. But see also STEAMBOAT ‘ROUND THE BEND, which has bizar­rely cheer­ful scenes of an inno­cent (white) man being hanged while there is a car­ni­val gath­er­ing nearby- but what Ford was refer­ring to, obliquely, is quite unmis­tak­able.) And his treat­ment of Native Americans, although hardly con­sist­ent, became quite respect­ful and sym­path­et­ic from the 50’s onwards (cf. FORT APACHE, WAGON MASTER)- much more so than Tarantino’s car­toons, anyway.
    George, it might interest you that sev­er­al crit­ics, like Adrian Martin, (but I remem­ber even Fuzzy Bastard bring­ing this up right here) have spot­ted the par­al­lels between the nar­rat­ives of increas­ingly viol­ent retri­bu­tion in Tarantino’s films, and the nar­rat­ive put forth by the Bush Administration to jus­ti­fy the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan. Even bad car­toons can be political.

  • george says:

    Speaking of car­toons, the fig­ure that Tarantino most reminds me of is comic-book cre­at­or Frank Miller. Miller’s obses­sion with viol­ent retri­bu­tion star­ted before Tarantino dir­ec­ted his first film. (“Sin City” began in 1991, a year before “Reservoir Dogs” was released.)
    Miller seems to be Tarantino’s cur­rent role mod­el. No won­der QT wanted to dir­ect a scene in the “Sin City” movie.

  • george says:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pBKj0W1JylU
    In a bet­ter world, “Birth of a Nation” would be for­got­ten, and this much bet­ter film from 1915 would be bet­ter known.

  • Oliver_C says:

    Miller seems to be Tarantino’s cur­rent role model.”
    Even from the heights of his first three fea­tures, Tarantino still has a great dis­tance to fall before he matches fedora-fetishist Miller’s aes­thet­ic and ideo­lo­gic­al decline from liber­tari­an Japanophile to NeoCon xenophobe.

  • Grant L says:

    …who made “The Spirit.”

  • Oliver_C says:

    No, I’m grate­ful Miller’s ‘Spirit’ exists: it reveals the pat­ron­iz­ing con­tempt held by (cine­mat­ic) NeoConservatism for the prag­mat­ic optim­ism of an old lib­er­al Jew like Eisner.

  • george says:

    Did you hear Tarantino’s inter­view on NPR’s “Fresh Air” today? He sort of had a melt­down when Terry Gross asked him if tra­gedies like Newtown make screen viol­ence less fun for him to watch or stage. He got very terse and quiet.
    AFter a long silence, he asked, “What do you mean by ‘the tragedy’?”
    He went on to tell Gross he was “annoyed” by her “dis­respect­ful” questions.
    I guess O’Heir is right – QT now lives in a bubble where no one asks him tough ques­tions. Except for Spike Lee, no one in the film industry dares to cri­ti­cize him. And he is shocked and offen­ded when inter­view­ers don’t act like ador­ing fans.

  • edo says:

    I just checked out those Ford com­ments Tarantino made to Gates. It does­n’t make me any less eager to see “Django Unchained”. It does­n’t make me hate Tarantino. It just dis­ap­points me to see a long­stand­ing myth about Ford being per­petu­ated in the crudest terms by a couple estab­lish­ment figures…

  • BB says:

    Thanks Oliver C, for point­ing out that Tarantino is in fact noth­ing at all like Frank Miller. Fucking internet…
    I agree with and appre­ci­ate much of what ‘D’ said above. I have seen DJANGO UNCHAINED twice, both times with vastly dif­fer­ent groups of people made up of fam­ily and friends. DU is an excel­lent story which grew even more for me on a second view­ing; those parts which ini­tially seemed forced or unneeded the first go ’round became essen­tial in that second view­ing (well, except for the bag thing), a very rare turn of events for me. There is so much char­ac­ter work being laid con­tinu­ously through­out the film that it might be easy to see it as just aux chat­ter, and that would be a damned shame.

  • Asher says:

    the mise en scene includes sev­er­al rev­er­en­tial gazes from black char­ac­ters toward Lincoln.”
    I would ima­gine that Lincoln received quite a few rev­er­en­tial gazes from black Americans in his day. The movie cer­tainly does­n’t make it out that blacks uni­ver­sally revered him.

  • Tom Carson says:

    May I say I’m not happy with the way Django has unleashed all the Tarantino hatuhs who seize on its dis­ap­point­ments to jeer that he was nev­er any good. But as a QT admirer, I do won­der why DU fea­tures the least inter­est­ing, most one-dimensional female char­ac­ter he’s ever writ­ten. Kerry Washington spends the movie play­ing a cipher, and that’s not Kerry Washington’s fault. Normally, Quentin dotes on the gals like few dir­ect­ors this side of Almodovar, but some­thing hung him up here.

  • Oliver_C says:

    The fuck­ing inter­net, man…

  • Petey says:

    It just dis­ap­points me to see a long­stand­ing myth about Ford being per­petu­ated in the crudest terms by a couple estab­lish­ment figures…”
    I think jbry­ant covered this top­ic quite well upthread on the pre­vi­ous page.
    Wagon Master is one of my Top Ten Films of All-Time, but that does­n’t mean Ford was­n’t also a creature of his times. It’s pretty rare even for quite good folk not to be creatures of their times. I mean, since Lincoln has crept onto this thread, it’s worth remem­ber­ing that the Great Emancipator him­self said some pretty racist things dur­ing his life.
    In short, one can love Ford without think­ing him a sanc­ti­fied saint. Much as one can love Tarantino without think­ing him the second com­ing of Jesus. (Hell, I think D.W. Griffith was a great film­maker, occa­sion­ally exec­rable polit­ics aside.)
    Now, Katherine Bigelow, fol­low­ing her early Near Dark, Blue Steel, and Point Break tri­umphs, has been both an abom­in­able film­maker AND abom­in­able in polit­ic­al terms, which makes her far less defend­able. But that’s a whole ‘noth­er thread, if I remem­ber the rules correctly…

  • Petey says:

    …in the crudest terms…”
    Also, worth remem­ber­ing that Tarantino’s schtick, ever since the begin­ning, has been to paint damn EVERYTHING in the crudest pos­sible terms. And it’s been work­ing out pretty damn well.
    Some artists work quite exquis­itely with broad brush strokes. We need them as much as we need the more subtle folks.
    (And I’ve got to thank Quentin’s S&S list for mak­ing me go seek out Rolling Thunder. Even more broad brush stroke fun than I’d been expecting.)

  • edo says:

    I nev­er said Ford was a saint. He cer­tainly was­n’t. I would­n’t even seek to excuse his faults on the basis that he was a creature of his times. There were plenty of artists in Ford’s era whose record is much clean­er when it comes to the ques­tion of racial polit­ics. On the oth­er hand, as Glenn has poin­ted out, Ford was actu­ally one of the few Hollywood film­makers of that era to act­ively con­front the real­it­ies of racial injustice in his work. As con­flic­ted and com­prom­ised as he may have been, he was ulti­mately more (and more often) anti-racist than he was racist.
    But Tarantino did­n’t even say Ford was a “creature of his times”. That would be one thing. He said he hates Ford (a dubi­ous claim when he appro­pri­ates the last image of “The Searchers” so lov­ingly in the wed­ding scene in “Kill Bill”) and that Ford “put on a Klan uni­form, and rode to black sub­jug­a­tion.” That’s just bull­shit. There’s no two ways about it. And when Tarantino is giv­ing an inter­view to Henry Louis Gates Jr. for The Root, the artist pro­vocateur excuse does­n’t wash, because the élite for­um endows his words with an aura of author­ity, ser­i­ous­ness and respect­ab­il­ity. What little cred­ib­il­ity Tarantino had once as a dis­rep­ut­able fig­ure has evap­or­ated at this point. He’s the estab­lish­ment as much as any oth­er pun­dit – no bet­ter than George Will.

  • Paul Duane says:

    I recently got hold of a copy of George Steiner’s great “The Guns of Navarone meets The Wages of Fear” nov­el, The Portage from San Cristobal of A.H., where a bunch of venge­ful Nazi-hunting Holocaust sur­viv­ors track down an ancient, half-starved, disease-riddled Adolf Hitler in his hut in a remote corner of the Amazon and try to bring him safely back to stand tri­al in Israel. It seemed weirdly like a pre-emptive riposte (from 1979 or so) to Tarantino’s venge­ful odys­sey against the worst people in the world (rap­ists, Nazis, slavers) and his desire to do Very Bad Things to them.

  • Finally caught Django, and geez, I thought it was great. Too long, sure, but massively inter­est­ing as well as com­pletely fun. I thought it was more about the appeal of nar­rat­ives of viol­ent retri­bu­tion than the actu­al 19th cen­tury (I was maybe the only per­son in the theat­er who laughed at the ultra-70s zoom over the “1858” title card), but it explored the sub­ject in inter­est­ing and con­stantly evolving ways. And I def­in­itely side with Marche about which movie is truer to the era: though DU is cheer­fully fast and loose with his­tor­ic­al facts, it’s infin­itely truer to the thick, bub­bling stew of bru­tal­ity and intim­acy that defined race in 19th cen­tury America than Spielberg’s sick­en­ing lib­er­al politeness.

  • george says:

    Saw “Django Unchained.” I’d rank it with “Jackie Brown” as mid-level Tarantino: bet­ter than “Kill Bill” and “Death-Proof,” but not as good as “Reservoir Dogs,” “Pulp Fiction” or “Inglorious Basterds.” It’s not a great film, but it held my atten­tion for all 3 hours.
    The film’s viol­ence has been cri­ti­cized, but the gore is so car­toon­ishly exag­ger­ated – as in the spa­ghetti west­erns it emu­lates – I could­n’t take it very ser­i­ously, or get offen­ded by it. Like Eastwood’s Man With No Name, Django nev­er misses a shot, while the bad guys – who are sup­posed to be fear­some killers – can­’t hit the side of a barn.
    The best act­ing is done by DiCaprio as the fop­pish plant­a­tion own­er, and Samuel L. Jackson as the grin­ning “house n—-r” who is really in charge. These scenes are trans­gress­ive and out­rageous, and per­versely funny. I don’t think I’ve seen any­thing so grot­esque since “Birth of a Nation.” A lot of the air goes out of the movie when DiCaprio departs. After that, it’s just one bloody gun­fight after another.

  • george says:

    As for “Django“ ‘s 500 or so uses of the N‑word … The sad fact is: that’s how people talked in 1858. And a lot of people were still talk­ing that way, 100 years later. It would have been unreal­ist­ic to have these char­ac­ters say “black” or “African American,” or even “colored.”
    OTOH, some of the dia­logue is not true to the peri­od. I doubt any­one in 1858 said, “What’s not to like?”
    “Django” can be seen as the anti-“Birth of a Nation,” and the anti-“Gone With the Wind.” Maybe it took a white guy from the South – Tarantino was born in Knoxville, Tennessee – to make a cor­rect­ive to those earli­er films that roman­ti­cized the Old South.

  • george says:

    http://www.nextmovie.com/blog/quentin-tarantino-revenge-fantasy-his
    Quentin Tarantino’s next 5 his­tor­ic­al revenge movies.

  • Tom Russell says:

    Sorry to be nec­ro­man­cing the thread– espe­cially with a num­ber of great pieces and dis­cus­sions as of late!– but I’ve been think­ing about some­thing “D” said on December 31 since, well, December 31, which is this:
    “Also, when Thaddeus Stevens gets into bed with his common-law wife, the two-shot is nar­rowed down to a close-up on the white char­ac­ter, ren­der­ing super­flu­ous the black char­ac­ter who had just shared the screen moments ago.”
    What I think you’re try­ing to say here is that the nar­row­ing was motiv­ated, con­sciously or sub­con­sciously, by a need to push a black char­ac­ter off the screen. That it was in some way a racist ges­ture. (Please cor­rect me if I’m mis­read­ing you.)
    I dis­agree with that idea rather strongly. It seems to me that it is motiv­ated by the scene’s func­tion in the film. Stevens, per­haps the most import­ant char­ac­ter oth­er than Lincoln, has just achieved his life’s work. He is tak­ing a moment to real­ize that, to bask in it a little, to reflect on it. He has over­come adversity; his com­prom­ise– in which he said words that were ana­thema to him– was not for naught.
    This is the quiet scene after the jubil­ant vic­tory; this is the hero hav­ing accom­plished what he has strived for. OF COURSE the scene pro­gresses to a tight close-up– the tight­est close-up, if I recall cor­rectly, that Stevens has. If the shot stayed wide, it would have far less emo­tion­al impact. The tight close-up punc­tu­ates the moment. It is the peri­od at the end of the sen­tence– it is the shot that ends Stevens’s arc and bids him farewell.
    This is Hollywood Filmmaking 101, and after all, that’s what Spielberg is good at– well-mounted films that are com­posed, edited, scored, and dir­ec­ted for max­im­um emo­tion­al impact. I’ll say that there are oth­er kinds of film­mak­ing that are more inter­est­ing to me, but I don’t expect them from Spielberg. What I expect from him is good, clas­sic­al Hollywood storytelling; I expect every shot and cut to be made with a purpose.
    That’s what he did; that’s what the close-up *is*. And I really don’t know what else to say to someone who would read that close-up as some­thing sinister.

  • D says:

    Tom: I have no idea of the motiv­a­tion behind the shot about which I pos­ted. In my writ­ing, I gen­er­ally do not try to determ­ine motiv­a­tions since I do not think they can be determ­ined (and when I do go down this path, I alert my read­ers that I am enga­ging in spec­u­la­tion). Rather through the prac­tice of close read­ing, I was try­ing to situ­ate the shot in the web of mean­ings, dis­courses and ideo­lo­gies in which I exper­i­enced it.
    The link below is to an art­icle which describes bet­ter than I can the pass­ive and ste­reo­typ­ic­al rep­res­ent­a­tion of African-Americans in the film:
    http://www.nytimes.com/2012/11/13/opinion/in-spielbergs-lincoln-passive-black-characters.html
    Two import­ant quotes:
    “… LINCOLN helps per­petu­ate the notion that African Americans have offered little of sub­stance to their own liberation”
    and
    “… Stevens lit­er­ally hands the offi­cial copy of the 13th Amendment to Smith, before the two head into bed togeth­er — reveals, once again, the film’s determ­in­a­tion to see eman­cip­a­tion as a gift from white people to black people, not as a social trans­form­a­tion in which African-Americans them­selves played a role.”
    It is the enun­ci­ation of black passiv­ity found in the film that informs my under­stand­ing of the shot we are dis­cuss­ing. You are cor­rect that the shot is – in one aspect – an example of Hollywood 101 film­mak­ing. But the shot is deployed with­in the con­text of a film that elides black agency – which the shot does as well in addi­tion to focus­ing on the hero – in this case a white man, rein­for­cing the white agency/black passiv­ity dicho­tomy the film traffics in.
    A spec­tat­or can choose to see the shot as an example of Hollywood film­mak­ing tropes and noth­ing more. She can also, as I do, look to see how this shot con­nects to the lar­ger ideo­lo­gic­al rep­res­ent­a­tions in the film. I do not think there is any­thing sin­is­ter in this prac­tice. As stated above, it is just an example of crit­ic­al close reading.

  • Tom Russell says:

    I see what you’re say­ing, Mr. D, and what Ms. Masur’s op-ed piece is say­ing, to a degree.
    At the same time– I don’t think the film is really about slavery, but about the passing of the 13th Amendment by the House of Representatives. It is a legis­lat­ive pro­ced­ur­al, set at a time in which the legis­lature was wholly and sadly white and male. As far as twist­ing the neces­sary arms and prom­ising the neces­sary jobs to get the neces­sary votes goes, there was not, to my under­stand­ing, a whole lot of black agency going on.
    If the film was about slavery, and the struggle to end it in the United States, Lincoln, the House, and the 13th Amendment would be just the tail-end of a very long film stretch­ing over hun­dreds of years. The evil of slavery gives the pro­ceed­ings its mor­al urgency, but it’s not *about* the evil of slavery, or the way both whites and blacks worked to end it. It’s about the pro­ceed­ings them­selves– the sausage-making of politics.
    It’s like “1776”– up until “Lincoln”, I think, the finest legis­lat­ive pro­ced­ur­al ever made– which is not really about the struggle for American inde­pend­ence, or even the things that pushed (and enticed) its declar­a­tion. It’s about the dirty, nasty verbal blood­s­port of polit­ics, about com­prom­ises and egos, about von Bismarck’s old chest­nut (some hun­dred years before he said it) that polit­ics is the art of what is possible.
    I think giv­en its genre, a “crit­ic­al close read­ing” of LINCOLN as a film that insti­tu­tion­ally elides black agency in the end­ing of slavery is some­thing of a non-sequitor, really– like fault­ing Coppola’s excel­lent MARIE ANTOINETTE for not focus­ing on the mor­al out­rages that led to the French Revolution. Neither film is “about” these things; is it really kosh­er to be call­ing them to task for not being some­thing that were nev­er meant to be?
    Compare this to garbage like THE HELP, which pre­tends to being about the civil rights move­ment and I think does elide black agency (or at the very least makes it insult­ingly sec­ond­ary to white agency).
    That’s my two cents anyway.

  • jbryant says:

    Yeah, I’m not sure how much black agency there was dur­ing the time of the events depic­ted in LINCOLN. Blacks had no power and no civil rights at the time. It was pretty much up to the whites in power to make the neces­sary changes. Obviously, I’m sim­pli­fy­ing, and don’t mean to imply that all black people were sit­ting idly by wait­ing for change. But as Tom Russell points out, LINCOLN cov­ers a very spe­cif­ic set of events in a very spe­cif­ic time frame.