Anecdotes

I am Romina Puga

By June 5, 2013No Comments

For the record, I am firmly with Jesse Eisenberg with respect this ridicu­lous dus­tup, and I don’t think what he did to the fluffy little Romina Puga falls under the cat­egory of “berat­ing” at all. I also think Puga’s response to it was repel­lently oppor­tun­ist­ic. My advice to any self-described enter­tain­ment journ­al­ist who does “schtick” is, when in the cattle call situ­ation of the movie-promoting video jun­ket, to give a little heads-up to the pub­li­cist or the tal­ent before you start rolling, so the tal­ent at least has the bene­fit of some know­ledge and hence the oppor­tun­ity to play along if he or she wishes. Eisenberg is clearly caught off-guard by Puga’s argu­ably osten­ta­tiously breezy style right off the bat, and registers more trying-to-regain-balance bemuse­ment than actu­al hos­til­ity for the rest of the encounter. For Puga to try and turn this around and act as if Eisenberg mali­ciously ripped her a new one is utter bullshit.

And yet. I under­stand, in a sense, her pain. In spring of last year, I was assigned by my MSN edit­ors to do a round of video jun­ket inter­views for 21 Jump Street. I don’t con­sider myself par­tic­u­larly tele­gen­ic, and the video jun­ket format isn’t my favor­ite way to con­duct inter­views. But as Hyman Roth says in The Godfather Part 2, this is the busi­ness we’ve chosen, and as an aging white male ostens­ible film crit­ic in the twi­light of print and all that my feel­ing is that maybe I ought to take every avail­able oppor­tun­ity to diver­si­fy my skill set and earn income. Although, like I said, in my gut I pretty much know I’ll nev­er be an entirely accept­able on-camera pres­ence until I at least get my hor­ribly dingy teeth replaced. And maybe grow some fuck­ing hair.

I enjoyed the movie ver­sion of 21 Jump Street, and I was par­tic­u­larly amused by the way it toggled between coarse homo­erot­ic male bond­ing jokes and rel­at­ively soph­ist­ic­ated meta humor. This sug­ges­ted, in my mind, a ques­tion, that I men­tally filed away pri­or to the day of the jun­ket. The actu­al day of said jun­ket was not an aus­pi­cious one, gen­er­ally speak­ing. It was a gray and chilly and rainy day in early March, a Saturday at that, and my call to show up at the swanky hotel where the inter­views were being staged was nine in the morn­ing. To top all that off, I was start­ing to get a cold.

Arguably, 21 Jump Street cost­ars Jonah Hill and Channing Tatum might have had it a little worse. For their inter­views, they dressed in cos­tumes they wear to com­ic effect in the film, that is, the black shorts worn by police officers who patrol on bicycles. The joke in the movie being, they go through all this train­ing and think they’re gonna be totally badass and their first gig out of the academy is bike patrol in a loc­al park. Ar ar ar. So here these two guys are at nine in the morn­ing on a Saturday in silly out­fits. Maybe it was their idea. I don’t know. I choose, for some reas­on, to believe that it was not.

Perhaps that reas­on is their demean­or as I was brought in to begin my inter­view. In addi­tion to the shorts and clingy shirts, Hill and Tatum wore dark wrap­around sunglasses. We exchanged greet­ings that struck me as extra-perfunctory before I sat down.

As it hap­pens, I’m friendly with both a dir­ect­or and an act­or who’ve worked with Hill in kind of not­able con­texts, and I’m also on terms with a dir­ect­or with whom Tatum has prof­it­ably col­lab­or­ated. My rela­tions with these oth­er people are argu­ably not intim­ate, but they’re also on a level high­er than that of cor­di­al acquaint­ance. So I thought about drop­ping a name or two, if it could get things off on the right foot. And then I thought bet­ter of it. Because I did­n’t want to be that guy. (Even now, I worry that I’m being that guy just by men­tion­ing it. God, no won­der I drank.)

Would that I had. Maybe it would have been worse. Anyway, as we began rolling I asked Hill, “As both a star and pro­du­cer on this movie, did you keep tabs on the ratio of homo­erot­ic male-bonding jokes to self-reflexive ones?” Or some­thing along those lines. Delivered in what I hoped was my best hail-fellow-well-met joc­u­lar tones. And even from behind the shades, I could see Hill’s genu­inely with­er­ing con­tempt as he answered, “I assume that was some kind of attempt at humor, and I’m going to ignore it and just say I had a great time mak­ing the movie.”

Now what the view­er is not privy to while watch­ing these man­u­fac­tured snip­pets is that each journ­al­ist doing these inter­views is allot­ted a very spe­cif­ic time lim­it, and that time lim­it does­n’t allow for reshoots. And when I say spe­cif­ic, I mean very—two minutes to the second, in some instances. So when my admitedly silly—but then again I mean what the hell, THEY were the guys sit­ting down in bik­ing shorts—ques­tion got that response, my strong burn­ing sense of humi­li­ation mingled with a kind of pan­ic. I had unwit­tingly wasted maybe thirty seconds of time, which means I had to scramble to get any­thing usable in my remain­ing minute and a half with the fel­lows. Even in the best of situ­ations with these things, in which the tal­ent is genu­inely enjoy­ing the exchange and you’re actu­ally able to get good stuff, there’s a pub­li­cist off to the side giv­ing you the throat-cutting sign. And yes, the tal­ent has to sit there for the bet­ter part of an entire work­ing day doing the same thing in two-to-five minute patches. How badly do you want to be fam­ous? Badly enough to be cool with doing that? Because maybe you should try it some time.

I could­n’t call to restart the ses­sion so I just switched to auto­mat­ic inane innoc­u­ous pilot, and salvaged the encounter, but as any­one who looks at the foot­age will note, nobody involved in the exchange is par­tic­u­larly inter­ested in sim­u­lat­ing even a sim­u­la­tion of chumminess. 

Was I angry? Fuck yeah. I was furi­ous. I got up and showered and shaved and dressed and schlepped to Manhattan on a rainy miser­able Saturday morn­ing when I could have been sleep­ing in with My Lovely Wife so I could be insul­ted by Jonah Hill? Seriously? When the video pos­ted, I put up a blog post here and I alluded to the shutting-down and I remem­ber feel­ing as if I was being incred­ibly restrained while so doing. One of the pro­fes­sion­al asso­ci­ates of Hill with whom I am friendly sent me an e‑mail which in effect said, that’s too bad. Which it was. And the point is: that’s all it was. Too bad. It was­n’t the end of the world, it was­n’t cause for me to nurse a grudge against Jonah Hill (for all the good that would do). It’s just a minor anec­dote con­cern­ing an inter­ac­tion that took place in a con­text that in most respects has very little to do with what con­sti­tutes the real world for either Hill and myself. Puga’s reac­tion to the Eisenberg incid­ent only has valid­ity if one accepts the idea that she and Eisenberg have some sort of gnu­ine rela­tion­ship to each oth­er. They do not. Similarly, my day-to-day life has noth­ing to do with Jonah Hill’s. All any of this means is that if one wants respect with­in the con­text of one’s pro­fes­sion, one ought to con­duct one­self pro­fes­sion­ally. That’s not a guar­an­tee that respect will be giv­en, but at least it gives you a leg to stand on. Be an enter­tainmnent journ­al­ist, or be Rupert Pupkin. You can­’t have it both ways. 

And finally, as “Freeman” put it in Bonfire of the Vanities, “be decent to each oth­er.” And Romina Puga, buy a god­damn paper note­book or something. 

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  • James Rocchi says:

    Nothing is worse than the sight of one’s self on-camera, so I feel your pain … and feel it on a reg­u­lar basis, sev­er­al times a month.
    J.

  • Anon says:

    Fluff piece celebrity inter­views can be ter­rible for every­one involved. A friend of mine had to do a red car­pet inter­view once and was told by her edit­or to ask a fairly dumb ques­tion that, as she expec­ted, got a dis­dain­ful look and no print­able answer.
    I had to do one myself in school dur­ing the brief time I worked in radio. It was a pub­lic con­cert in Washington, and I was get­ting my record­er and mic ready when the event’s celebrity host blew up while talk­ing with a group of TV report­ers about twenty yards from me. I looked at the PR rep, think­ing “this isn’t hap­pen­ing, is it?” To my sur­prise, the host walked over, spot­ted me, and basic­ally aired all his griev­ances to me about the inane ques­tions he was being asked while the oth­er report­ers watched quietly from their ori­gin­al spot.

  • bill says:

    I deal with lots of very rude people every day. Jonah Hill has no excuse. That story has always made me dis­like him just a little bit more, even though I don’t dis­like him on screen.
    Now, the weed/masturbating/farts thing…in that case I think he went to easy on the guy.

  • mw says:

    I watched the clip and gotta say I sided entirely with Puga. To me, Eisenberg came off as the most irrit­at­ing kind of douche. Given that per­form­ance, I’d guess he has a few years, at best, play­ing irrit­at­ing guys who one way or anoth­er end up get­ting pantsed and then before long he’ll turn up on one of those former celebrity losers shows. I can­’t recall ever see­ing any Hollywood star act with less class than he did in the Carrot Top exchange. Thinking… think­ing… no, I hon­estly can­’t recall see­ing worse.

  • bill says:

    Finally watched the Eisehberg thing. He was try­ing to be a charm­ing smar­tass, and she played along
    Then later on she thought about it and decided there was brief fame to he extrac­ted froj this.
    And on her blog, her tran­scrip­tion of her own inter­view is inaccurate.

  • bill says:

    Okay, double checked, I mis­read her blog. But she was still play­ing along with Eisenberg, until she saw an opportunity.
    PS – sorry about the typos in the pre­vi­ous com­ment. I dis­like mod­ern day devices.

  • First: I think we need some sort of non-telegenic pride move­ment. I mean, we’re just aver­age look­ing people. Are we to be shamed by the mere fact we aren’t in the 10% of the tele­gen­ic population?
    Second: As dull as these inter­views are, any­body pro­mot­ing a movie about bank-robbing magi­cians needs to have a sense of humor about it.
    Third: I skimmed as much of the Rolling Stone art­icle on Hill/Rogen/Franco as I could stand. It really is so bad that maybe I’d give Hill a pass for being douchey to the writer.

  • Jeff McMahon says:

    It’s an awk­ward situ­ation from the get-go, but your ques­tion seems (a) entirely reas­on­able and (b) more inter­est­ing than usu­al for the con­text. So Hill was the one being unprofessional.
    But yeah, not ulti­mately a big deal. It could have been worse. It could have been Tommy Lee Jones.

  • Cadavra says:

    Puga is just anoth­er of those twerps with zero skills who gets hired because she’s cute and skinny; no actu­al abil­ity or intel­li­gence required. She’s just lucky she’s nev­er inter­viewed Tommy Lee Jones.
    As for Hill: he was, is and always will be a dick. That he has a career at all is cos­mic retri­bu­tion upon the world for some unknown sin.

  • TVMCCA says:

    Sort of a greatest-hits com­pil­a­tion of celeb inter­views gone wrong:
    http://www.guardian.co.uk/culture/2013/jun/07/rhys-ifans-worst-celebrity-interviews?CMP=twt_fd

  • Oliver_C says:

    TVMCCA beat me to post­ing the above link, but Google ‘Meg Ryan Michael Parkinson’ if you want to see the ant­ag­on­ism of Hill and Eisenberg look like ama­teur hour.

  • Stefan says:

    Entitlement. These act­ors make more per day of sit­ting there answer­ing that schlock than a lot of the edit­ors make in a year – so guess what – they can cope. Part of the job. Don’t like it? Go work in a call cen­ter, or any kind of marketing/sales.
    I think Eisenberg was being a smug bas­tard. He clearly felt he had the intel­lec­tu­al upper hand on the inter­view­er, and made no beans about abso­lutely skew­er­ing her through­out the inter­view. This from the dude who went after zom­bies and voiced a blue CG bird. Is he good at his craft? Sure. Probably quite intel­li­gent too. This is not Revenge of the Nerds though – not the time to exact your ire on a hap­less inter­view­er. And so she had stick – roll with it. I have to reck­on Robert Downey would have been much more charm­ing about the whole thing, wheth­er he took her ser­i­ously or not.
    And you – you sound like sour grapes. The upper class­man who won’t help. You got toasted once, did­n’t like it, and got glib response to the whole thing – which is a shame, and frankly an abuse of their (act­ors) sta­tion. However, you instead seem to pro­ject it on her as if she – indeed all of you “deserve” this some­how. Really? ‘Coz these act­ors have it so, so bad?

  • Glenn Kenny says:

    I do enjoy a good “fuck all y’all” com­ment every now and then. I must say.

  • Don says:

    I thought Hill came across as kind of a self-important dick in the RS inter­view (althought the inter­view­er cer­tainly did­n’t help him­self by greet­ing Hill as “Seth”!), and Glenn’s anec­dote only rein­forces that opinion.

  • jbryant says:

    I finally watched the Puga/Eisenberg encounter, and it seems rather clear to me that he was going along with her shtick quite well until her reac­tion to the “Carrot Top” com­ment. But I thought he was simply refer­ring to her bring­ing out the deck of cards (Carrot Top is a prop com­ic), not mak­ing some sort of qual­it­at­ive judg­ment about her inter­view­ing. After that, sure, he makes some snar­ki­er remarks, but she’s the one who changes the tone of the interview.
    Also, it’s a good thing she’s an on-camera per­son­al­ity rather than a writer. The quote from her blog fea­tures such gems as “When the five-minute interview…were over…” and “I peaked around the curtain…”

  • preston says:

    Would love to see a Ginger Baker/Romina Puga inter­view. Doubt she could even get him to speak in her allot­ted 5 mins. Or Ginger on ‘The View’, or Ginger anywhere…
    http://www.guardian.co.uk/music/video/2013/may/15/beware-mr-baker-qa-ginger-baker-video