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Something to watch tonight: Tuesday 22 April

By April 22, 2025No Comments

The Two Popes (Meirelles, 2019)

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There’s no “new releases” update today as I have a rare gig filling in on RNZ At the Movies tomor­row and I don’t want to write those reviews twice! Listen out at 7.30 tomor­row even­ing as I talk about Sinners, Warfare and Small Things Like These.

In the mean­time, here’s a top­ic­al recommendation.

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When I reviewed Conclave for RNZ earli­er this year, I intro­duced it with these para­graphs about my oth­er favour­ite Pope films:

Despite my lack of a per­son­al rela­tion­ship with Catholicism, I do love a good Pope film and I’ve been very lucky in recent years to have had plenty of good ones to enjoy.

In 2019 we had Jonathan Pryce and Anthony Hopkins in The Two Popes, a fic­tion­al­ised story of the han­dover between Benedict XVI and Pope Francis and – I think – Anthony McCarten’s best screenplay.

The most fun fic­tion­al Pope has to be Jude Law in Paolo Sorrentino’s 2016 series The Young Pope in which a hand­some and cha­ris­mat­ic New York car­din­al is elec­ted as a com­prom­ise can­did­ate but then pro­ceeds to chal­lenge every Vatican assump­tion and threaten the heart of the estab­lish­ment. He ended that series in a mys­ter­i­ous coma, replaced by the glor­i­ous John Malkovich. Seek it out, if you can. It’s delicious.

But the Pope film that came to mind while I was watch­ing Edward Berger’s Conclave, was Habemus Papam, or We Have a Pope from 2011.

In Nanni Moretti’s sly com­edy, Michel Piccoli plays anoth­er com­prom­ise can­did­ate, a car­din­al who does­n’t want the job and tries to deal with his pan­ic with the help of a psychoanalyst.

In memory of Pope Francis, I want to single out The Two Popes mainly because of the com­pas­sion and empathy the film has for two very real people who share an entirely unreal world. Jonathan Pryce’s por­tray­al of Pope Francis was so uncanny that ever since, whenev­er I saw a photo of Francis, I thought of him as Pope Jonathan.

McCarten’s script is about an ima­gined meet­ing between the age­ing Pope Benedict (Anthony Hopkins) and the frus­trated reformer, Cardinal Bergoglio of Argentina (Jonathan Pryce). Benedict is feel­ing his age and feel­ing some­thing else too – or the lack of some­thing. Bergoglio think he is vis­it­ing so he can resign but in fact he being soun­ded out as a pos­sible replace­ment. Benedict is con­sid­er­ing becom­ing the first pope to resign since Gregory XII in 1415. That’s not a huge amount of pre­ced­ent for an insti­tu­tion that relies so much on tradition.

You can see why it would have made a ter­rif­ic play – at least as long as it was cast as well as this film is. Two char­ac­ters with much in com­mon but also much that sep­ar­ates them. Conservative and reformer, European and Latin American, detached and worldly. But both des­per­ate in their own way to do the right thing by the church and 1.2 bil­lion Roman Catholics.

Films like this are so rare. Films that hinge on the good­ness of char­ac­ters rather than their desires. It doesn’t ignore their flaws – ima­gined though they may be in their detail – but it felt invig­or­at­ing to spend time with these two old geezers.

Thinking about screen­writer Anthony McCarten (mul­tiple Oscar-nominee for Darkest Hour, The Theory of Everything and The Two Popes), I am promp­ted to recall that in his early days as a Wellington play­wright, I pro­duced two of his plays: Mazurka (1994) and the Tim Balme one-man show Let’s Spend the Night Together (1993) which we toured to Dunedin and Auckland, neces­sit­at­ing sev­er­al long car rides togeth­er up and down the country.

I bring this up not to name-drop (or at least not just to name-drop), but to recall what a weird adven­ture this thing I call a career has been. That exper­i­ence helped shape me but no longer appears on my cv.

Finally, on the sub­ject of my cv, a con­tract I was look­ing for­ward to has been delayed for anoth­er three months which means there is a gap in my sched­ule. If you know of any­thing – con­tract or per­man­ent – you know where to find me. Upgrading from free to a paid sub­scrip­tion would come in handy now, too!


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Where to watch The Two Popes

Worldwide: Streaming on Netflix