Housekeeping

Let's go crazy.

By July 24, 2009No Comments
Sure, it’s been a slow news week, but that does­n’t mean that the stand­ard lun­acy of the inter­nets has waned. Indeed, in some respects it’s reached new heights, as in one crit­ic’s straight-faced laud­at­ory com­par­is­on of Jean-Luc Godard to Michael Bay. (Bet you can guess the crit­ic.) That, and some more of the same, is avail­able for link­ing and com­ment­ary at my weekly Topics, etc. column at The Auteurs’, here. 

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  • Matthias Galvin says:

    I hope that Michael Bay’s winery-set art film fea­tures a crit­ic­al cameo by Armond himself.

  • Max says:

    Has any­one noticed that the story of the Film School Rejects staff being arres­ted is almost EXACTLY the same as an epis­ode of Studio 60 on the Sunset Strip?

  • Dan Coyle says:

    Homer: “Kids, would you step out­side for a second?”
    (deep breath)
    “FFFFF—”
    Flanders: “Wow, that’s the LOUDEST pro­fan­ity I’ve ever heard!”

  • JF says:

    I don’t know about you all, but I know I’m eagerly await­ing the next Bay film, MASCULINE/MASCULINE/MASCULINE.

  • Griff says:

    Y’know, for the record, Nanette Newman is rather charm­ing in Forbes’ best movie, THE WRONG BOX.

  • JC says:

    Bay will fol­low MASCULINE/MASCULINE/MASCULINE with CONTEMPT FOR HUMANITY.

  • Ed Howard says:

    Michael Bay is cur­rently plan­ning a “sequel” to WEEKEND. It’s just gonna be a two-hour track­ing shot along a row of cars, as they blow up and spon­tan­eously go fly­ing through the air.

  • JF says:

    BAND OF EXPLODERS; LITERALLY BREATHLESS; THE BIGGEST SOLDIER, LIKE, EVER; LA CHINOISE STEREOTYPE; A WOMAN IS A CAR IS A GUN IS A CHOPPER IS AMERICA, etc.

  • The Siren says:

    I’m howl­ing. This is the fun­ni­est thread at Glenn’s place ever. I think Ed Howard wins so far but the night is young …

  • Adam R. says:

    YOUR LIFE FOR ME TO END; LETTER TO ARMOND; EVERY ROBOT FOR HIMSELF; AMERICAN SOUNDS..
    I like MASCULINE/MASCULINE/MASCULINE a lot, but only if it’s giv­en its full title:
    MASCULINE/MASCULINE/MASCULINE: 15 PRECISE FACTS ABOUT THE CHILDREN OF BUSH AND TWITTER

  • Glenn Kenny says:

    OK, I’ll give it a shot:
    “Two Or Three Hundred Thousand Dollars I Blew On That Hooker I Inherited From Don Simpson”
    “Made In USA, Fuck Yeah!”
    “Tout Va AWESOME”

  • Adam R. says:

    OK, I’m bored and at work on a Sunday…
    For Ever Linkin Park
    Alas For You Snooty Cinephile
    Histoire du Cinema: A Bunch of Names and Movie Titles Spielberg Mentioned That One Time We Had Lunch. (feel free to trans­late that into French)

  • Tom Russell says:

    King Leer. For Ever & Ever & Ever & Ever & Ever & Oh God It Still Has a Half-Hour Left Mozart.

  • Allen Belz says:

    Back around the time of Pearl Harbor I had a friend who said that Michael Bay’s bid for respect­ab­il­ity would be The Seventh Seal II…“Death tak­ing away all those people at the end of the first one – that was just wrong, man. In this one we go into the after­world and get those people BACK.”

  • JF says:

    AUTOVILLE: THE FUCKING HOT CARWASHING ADVENTURE OF MEGAN FOX; UN CATASTROPHE, AS PREVENTED BY ASTRONAUT DRILLERS; THE POWER OF ‘SPLOSIONS; A MOVIE LIKE ANY OTHER, BUT WITH BLACKFACE ROBOTS THIS TIME.

  • Arthur S. says:

    How about this…Alphaville – Un Etrange Aventure de Lemmy Caution becomes
    The Alphaville Adventure – In Search of Caution.

  • papa zita says:

    Band of Outsider Mutant Earth-Destroying Machines
    A Woman Is A Homicidal Killer
    Le Petit Supernova

  • Brian says:

    Love the Bay-as-Godard jokes, but I’m even more inter­ested in Glenn’s point about how tech­nic­al competence/visual style seems to be becom­ing a dirty concept in crit­ic­al circles. I’ve some­times noticed that fet­ish­iz­ing of a DIY aes­thet­ic among my stu­dents, and it’s an inter­est­ing, very prob­lem­at­ic thing to grapple with– the notion that a Minnelli track­ing shot is some­how too much of a “flour­ish” to be “authen­t­ic”. And who can­’t love at least parts of AN AMERICAN IN PARIS? It’s no BAND WAGON or SOME CAME RUNNING or THE CLOCK, but it def­in­itely has its moments.

  • Jason M. says:

    Well, one thing’s for sure: Pierrot Le Fou would have used a hell of a lot more dynamite.

  • Irving Thalberg says:

    @ Brian– I voci­fer­ously agree with your con­cern. Does it make me a snot to won­der why some of the cur­rent crop of “indie” film­makers are mak­ing films at all when, as far as the tech­nic­al side of the craft goes, there’s either little-to-no under­stand­ing of com­pos­i­tion and edit­ing or just a blatant dis­reg­ard for the same? Imagine if a lit­er­ary move­ment sim­il­arly eschewed flu­id prose in favor of low-fi ama­teur hour mater­i­al that’s more-or-less an unread­able eye­sore filled with dis­join­ted syn­tax and ques­tion­able word choices. (Oh, wait. That’s Dan Brown.) Point being that while verisimil­it­ude in nar­rat­ive is cer­tainly worthy of our atten­tion, to what degree do these films deserve cel­eb­ra­tion if the fun­da­ment­als of the craft are com­mit­ted at such a sub-competent level? The Swanbergs of the world have chosen not simply to work in a nar­rat­ive medi­um, but a visu­al nar­rat­ive medi­um. I guess my ques­tion at the end of the day is, if you’re going to throw the visu­al ele­ment out the win­dow, why is this still your medi­um of choice?

  • Glenn Kenny says:

    @ Brian and Irving T.: The ques­tions you bring up are cer­tainly inter­est­ing, but I doubt I can answer them as well as the would-be can­on knee-cappers could—not that I think they neces­sar­ily care to. As I said, I was more inter­ested in stem­ming the tide of a poten­tial trend than in identi­fy­ing an actu­al one. Still—if over the next week or so, you see one or more New-York-based film blog­ger refer­ring to Ray’s “Johnny Guitar” as “the first mumble­core Western” or some such, then it’s time to start dig­ging the trenches, and dig­ging them deep.

  • The Siren says:

    Dying. Laughing so hard I can­’t even defend Minnelli. And that means something.

  • Tom Russell says:

    Mr. Thalberg (good job des­troy­ing GREED, by the way!),
    I per­son­ally agree that the “fetishizing-DIYness-at-expense-of-formal-mastery” thing is a con­cern that’s worth dis­cuss­ing, even as I think a lot of these cur­rent film­makers do have a great­er under­stand­ing of com­pos­i­tion and edit­ing than a lot of people seem will­ing to give them cred­it for.
    Not to be a “snot” myself, but I will say that I am get­ting tired of the “film is a visu­al medi­um” attack because that’s the most obvi­ous and eas­ily the shal­low­est under­stand­ing of cinema. Much much more-so than visu­als, film is about Time. The raw mater­i­als of nar­rat­ive cinema (as opposed to exper­i­ment­al) are Time and People.
    To my mind, Mr. Swanberg has demon­strated an interest in people, faces, emo­tions, and per­son­al­it­ies. Now, we all might dif­fer as to the worth of what he makes of those raw mater­i­als– even with some reser­va­tions that I’ve cata­loged here and else­where, I am myself fairly staunchly in the pro-Swanberg camp– but since people want­ing to make art out of people-plus-time gen­er­ally have two options, cinema and theat­er, and since the former is the only one that leaves a record of itself, I don’t think in the end that it’s such a puzz­ling ques­tion, is it?

  • Irving Thalberg says:

    Dear Mr. Russell,
    Not sure how you got from my com­ment to a desec­ra­tion of Mr. von Stroheim, but good for you.
    I frankly find it curi­ous to hear stand­ing up for the visu­al ele­ment of the film­mak­ing pro­cess as “shal­low.” Your defin­i­tion w/r/t film’s raw mater­i­als (Time and People) seems to me to be a bet­ter work­ing defin­i­tion of all nar­rat­ive. Aren’t time and people the fun­da­ment­al ingredi­ents of theat­er, of fic­tion, of a lot of non-fiction, of radio drama, etc, etc? So how do we dif­fer­en­ti­ate film from those media? The answer, of course, is that in film, the time & people in ques­tions are pho­to­graphed (usu­ally in a sequence of mul­tiple shots), and these indi­vidu­al shots are then con­struc­ted into a tem­por­al sequence by edit­ing. This is not shal­low or reduc­tion­ist. This is what puts a par­tic­u­lar spin on the explor­a­tion of time and people in this medi­um. This is what defines this medium.
    And when I call for high­er visu­al stand­ards in the cur­rent crop of indie film­mak­ing I’m not expect­ing everything to look like it was shot by an Ophuls or Minnelli. I’m just ask­ing to see an engage­ment by the dir­ect­or and DP in terms of how they visu­ally approach their mater­i­al, since they are (to your mind at least) choos­ing to pho­to­graph it so as to have a record for pos­ter­ity. I want to see a choice made about how to present their explor­a­tion of Time and People and best rep­res­ent it on screen. Since we’re bring­ing up divis­ive film­makers, I might float Cassavetes’ FACES as a movie com­posed mostly of tight shots of people that ranks as a favor­ite of mine because, to my mind, not only does it con­tain a beau­ti­ful explor­a­tion of loneli­ness, the dis­sol­u­tion of rela­tion­ships, etc, but Cassavetes made a strong choice that a par­tic­u­lar style of high-contrast B&W cov­er­age was the best way to explore the pain at hand in his nar­rat­ive. A lot of cur­rent indie film­makers seem to make no choice at all, oth­er than to have their cam­era in the same gen­er­al vicin­ity as their actors.
    And yeah, I find it dis­ap­point­ing when a film­maker fails to make that kind of choice because no mat­ter how enga­ging their nar­rat­ive (their sequence of Time & People) is, when a film treats its cine­ma­to­graphy and edit­ing as after­thoughts (or just as simple means to achieve pos­ter­ity), it’s akin to a nov­el­ist fail­ing to enrich his/her mater­i­al via estab­lish­ing a par­tic­u­lar lin­guist­ic style or a dram­at­ist fail­ing to enrich his/her work but mak­ing abso­lutely no choices w/r/t sta­ging, light­ing, etc. How can that kind of disengagement–one might say lazi­ness or ignor­ance if one were feel­ing spiteful–be con­sidered a truly suc­cess­ful and full use of one’s medium?

  • Tom Russell says:

    Mr. Thalberg–
    Well said. (My GREED com­ment was­n’t in ref­er­ence to your com­ments, but a joke dir­ec­ted at your name­sake, which I pre­sumed an ali­as. Am I wrong?)
    But, yes, well said. I guess my thing is, when people chas­tise a giv­en film­maker for being insuf­fi­ciently visu­al, they’re often think­ing of the stand­ards codi­fied in the Hollywood cinema. Now, that’s not what you’re talk­ing about here– your points about how they approach they mater­i­al and the choices they make towards it are well taken.
    But at the same time, I have to say that I dis­agree with your asser­tion that the cur­rent crop of DIY film­makers are fail­ing to make those decisions or that they’re dis­en­gaged from that process.
    I think that choos­ing to go without a tri­pod and shak­ing the cam­era up some­body’s nos­tril, documentary-style, IS a mean­ing­ful choice. Is it a choice that I, as a film­maker, would make? No. Hell no. Is it a choice that I, as a film­go­er, am par­tic­u­larly a fan of? No. Do I think it makes it more real? No.
    But it is cer­tainly enga­ging with the mater­i­al. The cam­era oper­at­or (in the case of Swanberg, often it is the dir­ect­or him­self) chooses who to fol­low, when to zoom in, where to focus. This approach does­n’t require the dir­ect­or to think everything out before­hand; it requires him to engage with the act­ors in the moment. It takes as much if not more from the dir­ect­or, not less.
    To me, “lazi­ness” and being dis­en­gaged would be either shoot­ing tra­di­tion­al cov­er­age (and cut­ting it like tra­di­tion­al cov­er­age) or just slap­ping a cam­era any­where and turn­ing it on, MANOS: THE HANDS OF FATE style.
    I don’t know; maybe I’m overly kind to these films and film­makers because they’re using the medi­um to make a per­son­al state­ment, camera-stylo. Which is what Minnelli did with a track­ing shot, what Powell did with an explo­sion of Cardiff-colour, what Shakespeare did with the English lan­guage. As the bard once said, “All is true”.
    Another bard, Stan Brakhage, once said (para­phras­ing) that there’s no such thing as a prop­er expos­ure or white bal­ance. All meth­ods are val­id. All is true.
    For me, the shaky-cam approach isn’t ignor­ing the visu­al ele­ment or approach­ing it incom­pet­ently any­more than the non-shaky-cam approach are mere “flour­ishes” (who­ever said that, go slap them for me). Both tra­di­tions are in fact in their own way inher­ently vir­tu­osic, draw­ing atten­tion to them­selves in a way that the more sub­dued long-takes wide-frame dead­pan cinema does­n’t. And that, des­pite its lack of razzle-dazzle, is in itself the res­ult of a mean­ing­ful choice. (It’s also one that engages with time-and-space-and-people more directly.)

  • Zach says:

    What’s funny is, imme­di­ately after I read the state­ment “film is about Time” I thought of Tarkovsky. Then I real­ized this was going to be about Swanberg et al., and I sud­denly had an attack of the vapors and had to breathe into a paper bag for a few minutes.

  • Irving Thalberg says:

    Mr. Russell–
    Happy to have found some com­mon ground to share. And no, Irving Thalberg isn’t my real name; shame on me for not pick­ing up on the ref­er­ence (which truly bewildered me at the time).

  • Tom Russell says:

    @Zach: Granted, as I’ve said in my own Swanberg essay, I’m not sure if the films I’ve seen of his evoke the best sense of time/place– he’s def­in­itely more about the and-people than the time– but, yes, Tarkovsky is the one who was respons­ible for rewir­ing my brain. Not that my own work has any­thing to do with that ven­er­ated Master’s– we’re in two com­pletely dif­fer­ent styles/modes/etc.– but “sculpt­ing in time” has become the thought at the fore­front of my mind. If it was­n’t our aim, my wife and I would­n’t have begun our film SON OF A SEAHORSE now avail­able on DVD from Amazon.com for $15 with spe­cial fea­tures! with a 22-minute phone con­ver­sa­tion about a util­ity bill.
    @Irving: Sorry for bewil­der­ing you. Always glad to find com­mon ground, which, I think, is mod­us operandi for SOME CAME RUNNING. That’s what I like about Glenn’s neck of the inter­net– I might not always agree with everything said (espe­cially regard­ing Joe Swanberg!) but the con­ver­sa­tion is intel­li­gent, spir­ited, and amic­able. People listen to each oth­er and respond in kind.

  • Tom Russell says:

    That “now avail­able on DVD… with spe­cial fea­tures!” was pos­ted with fake HTML tags w/ “shame­less­ness” writ­ten inside them. Unfortunately, the site thought they were real HTML tags, which kind of kills the joke and makes the shame­less­ness fairly unforgivable.
    Ah well.

  • Irving Thalberg says:

    Mr. Russell–
    Very glad to have found some com­mon ground after all. And no, Irving Thalberg is not my real name; shame on me for not get­ting your reference!

  • Irving Thalberg says:

    Apparently bewil­der­ing me more is that the com­ments on Typepad can span mul­tiple pages, which caused my dementia-inspired double posting.

  • Brian: since Glenn saw fit to attack my single blog post on two web­site, not includ­ing here, I’ll just cla­ri­fy: I’m actu­ally a huge Minnelli fan, and in my ori­gin­al post I noted that I do enjoy parts of AN AMERICAN IN PARIS (par­tic­u­larly the Levant on Levant busi­ness), but it’s a film I’ve tried many times to appre­ci­ate, and I just seem to have a blind spot for it. My post was not really about AAIP, but the idea of cine­mat­ic blind spots. I thought this might be an inter­est­ing start­ing point for a con­ver­sa­tion, but appar­ently to admit such a thing is a crim­in­al act, worthy of pun­ish­ment in mul­tiple ven­ues. Once again: Whoops!

  • Tom Russell says:

    I per­son­ally did­n’t have a prob­lem with Ms. Longworth’s post myself & did­n’t see it as “can­on knee-capping” or “I know I’m sup­posed to like this, but…”.
    It was rather like Andrew Grant’s blog post about his apathy towards Rohmer (one that, incid­ent­ally, I share): http://www.filmbrain.com/filmbrain/2008/09/publish—filmb.html
    He’s not say­ing “I’m sup­posed to like this” or “this is actu­ally ter­rible”, he’s just talk­ing about his own reac­tion to the film­maker and how, des­pite a taste in film that leans towards the Rohmeresque, he can­’t quite appre­ci­ate him. I think Karina was writ­ing in the same vein.

  • Glenn Kenny says:

    Karina Longworth feels attacked because I cracked wise about her “American In Paris” post both at Spout and at The Auteurs’. And so I did. But in both cases, I also made a good faith attempt to advance the putat­ive con­ver­sa­tion, I think, in that I expressed the opin­ion that I sin­cerely don’t under­stand the point of such mid­dling “I have a blind spot for X” com­mu­niques. Seems more the sort of thing you talk about at a party than you actu­ally write about. And also, as far as Karina’s con­cerned, it’s not just a blind spot—there are things about “An American In Paris” she clearly does not think work, and most of them seem to have to do with Leslie Caron—a screen pres­ence who is admit­tedly an acquired taste. My point (yes, I actu­ally have one) is that if one is going to argue against some­thing, one ought to ARGUE AGAINST it, peri­od. Robin Wood did­n’t end his study of Howard Hawks with a sec­tion called “Appendix: Movies I Ought To Have Liked More , I Guess,” but rather “Appendix: Failures and Marginal Works.” And, holy crap, among them are “The Big Sleep” and “Gentlemen Prefer Blondes.”
    So I sup­pose what I’m say­ing is that I’d prefer someone say “this is actu­ally ter­rible” and mar­shall some first-rate argu­ments in sup­port of that pos­i­tion than say “meh” fol­lowed by “what do you think?” Seems more of a genu­inely crit­ic­al prac­tice. But that’s just me. People can do pretty much what they want, and I can make jokes about it, I suppose…
    @ Tom Russell: Yes, I’ve tried to set that nin­com­poop Grant straight on Rohmer on sev­er­al occa­sions, but there’s just no talk­ing to some people. Also, our wives tend threaten to pour water over our heads when the sub­ject comes up.

  • The Siren says:

    I would have liked to see more about Karina’s spe­cif­ic cri­ti­cisms of AAIP; she has more com­pany in dis­lik­ing it than she seems to think. “Overblown” is the adject­ive I encounter most frequently–from Pauline Kael for one. And it’s been said many times that Kelly, in the dance sequences, was try­ing to out-Powell The Red Shoes, and wheth­er he suc­ceeded is a good sub­ject for debate.
    It is an odd movie, one of those films I love but can still under­stand people dis­lik­ing. I’d argue that Caron and Kelly don’t have much chem­istry dur­ing their dia­logue scenes, but once the music starts so does the romance. My com­plaint: I think Minnelli made a major mis­take in cut­ting a scene where the hugely enjoy­able Levant and Nina Foch enjoy a moment that implies a future for those two char­ac­ters. How I would love someone to loc­ate that!

  • Jeff McMahon says:

    I’d say that admit­ting to hav­ing a ‘meh’ reac­tion may be more hon­est, and there­fore more pro­duct­ive, than mus­ter­ing up half-baked reas­ons for dis­lik­ing some­thing for the sake of an argument.

  • Christian says:

    Didn’t AMERICAN IN PARIS bomb at the box-office? I thought that was why Gene Kelly was­n’t able to get SOMETHING WICKED THIS WAY COMEES off the ground…pity.

  • Glenn Kenny says:

    @ Jeff M.: I would be the last per­son to sug­gest that one ought to gin up rationales merely for the sake of put­ting forth a con­trari­an pos­i­tion. But I guess I really just fail to com­pre­hend the util­ity of ini­ti­at­ing such con­ver­sa­tions as the one Karina did.

  • The Siren says:

    @Christian: AAIP was a massive hit. Are you think­ing of Invitation to the Dance? That did bomb, big time, and MGM even with­held it for a while before releas­ing it and allow­ing the film to die. And it’s a lulu. Talk about (genu­inely) over­blown! But I still loved it, or most of it anyway.

  • Jeff McMahon says:

    On the plus side, I just read that Auteurs’ piece and laughed out loud at the not-an-Armondism-of-the-week (and the always well-appreciated swipe at David Poland) so thanks!

  • Christian says:

    Yes, INVITATION THE DANCE! Of course. I should see that…

  • Tom Russell says:

    I envy you, Siren; I’ve been want­ing to see INVITATION TO THE DANCE for years. I don’t sup­pose you could go into more detail re: its luluocity…?

  • Filmbrain says:

    More than happy to wear the nin­com­poop cap.
    I shall con­tin­ue self-medicating with Rohmer, and will let you know as soon as I find one where I find even a trace of some­thing that resembles real life.
    Maybe I’m just hanging out at the wrong beaches.….