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Re: person I (never) knew

By July 18, 2010No Comments

In my most recent little squabble with the com­menter Fuzzy Bastard, he brought up, albeit in a fash­ion that ini­tially vexed me, an inter­est­ing point about movie­go­ers and/or cinephiles con­flat­ing well-known act­ors with the parts they play, and, fur­ther in the case of an actor-turned-director such as Clint Eastwood, con­flat­ing their var­ied screen per­so­nas with their per­ceived film­mak­ing vir­tues. This is a theme that is not without interest, and it’s cer­tainly a knotty one, and it’s one that gains com­plic­a­tion if one has worked suc­cess­fully as a film journ­al­ist, which on occa­sion provides oppor­tun­it­ies to have some sort of social or quasi-social inter­ac­tion with the “real” “people” who are these act­ors and directors. 

Would we be as impressed with Eastwood’s dir­ect­ori­al work had he nev­er acted, and had he, in real life, say, looked and spoken like his ment­or Don Siegel? Or his oth­er ment­or Sergio Leone? In sev­er­al respects the point is moot. In oth­er respects, I can­’t help but believe that a pic­ture such as Bird, as object­ively won­der­ful as it is, gains some­thing in aura by hav­ing been dir­ec­ted by Eastwood as we “know” him. And Eastwood as we “know” him is not just defined by the glimpses of pen­et­rat­ing intel­li­gence and movie love that we get in inter­views with him, but by the roles he’s played. A friend recently poin­ted me to a little web­site which invites its view­ers to ima­gine what cer­tain fam­ous films might have looked like had they ended up with the casts ori­gin­ally envi­sioned for them; and here we are reminded that Frank Sinatra was sup­posed to have been the man to play “Dirty” Harry Callahan. It’s easy enough (in part cour­tesy of Sinatra’s Tony Rome films) to ima­gine Old Blue Eyes pro­noun­cing the San Francisco detect­ive’s choicer bits of dia­logue. But still. All of these factors enable a par­tic­u­lar kind of famili­ar­ity to take hold of our ima­gin­a­tions con­cern­ing Eastwood. Whereas an act­or such as Robert DeNiro remains daunt­ingly opaque as a human being, in spite of hav­ing dir­ec­ted two films that can only be con­sidered per­son­al pro­jects. Here’s where one’s—well, spe­cific­ally in this case, my own—experience as a journ­al­ist affects my per­cep­tion; I’ve atten­ded one or two private or semi-private social events at which DeNiro was oblig­ated to speak, or glad hand a bit, and the thing that came across most palp­ably was his extreme dis­com­fort with his cir­cum­stances. One sensed a per­son who was not a social anim­al, and per­haps someone who was only truly at home when work­ing. One also sensed that to spec­u­late any fur­ther would be to enter a realm of pop-psych fatu­ity that is the inev­it­able swamp nearly every journ­al­ist unlucky enough to be assigned to pro­file DeNiro wades into. 

One can­not, then, neces­sar­ily “see” Travis Bickle or Jimmy Conway in the per­son of DeNiro the way one can see, or choose to see, Harry Callahan or Ben Shockley or Red Garnett in Eastwood. In a recent blog post about the recent Tom Cruise action­er Knight and Day, Richard Brody notes that the film “looks back long­ingly at an act­or who was made to fill the role—the Tom Cruise of yes­teryear. And I sus­pect the movie’s com­mer­cial fail­ure is due, in large meas­ure, to the gap between that earli­er Cruise and the one present here, both on- and off-screen.” Brody then cites anoth­er everything’s-gone-to-hell art­icle by his col­league David Denby (not avail­able in its entirety online except to New Yorker sub­scribers), bemoan­ing a time when, as Brody puts it, “act­ors used to be”—hey, here’s that word again—“opaque.” Perhaps so, but just because movie­go­ers have a great deal of access to inform­a­tion about Tom Cruise’s unusu­al private life, does that mean that they actu­ally “know” Tom Cruise? I don’t believe so. The Tom Cruise in our mind is just as much of a con­struct as the Humphrey Bogart of movie­go­ers’ minds in the ’40s was; it’s just a nois­i­er con­struct. Our senses of what movie stars are “really” “like” is still mostly a mat­ter of what we choose to believe about them, not what we “actu­ally” “know.” You listen to the Mel Gibson tapes and hear an out-of-control, big­oted, woman-hating bully. I hear that too, but I also think I hear a pos­sibly dry alco­hol­ic stuck in an anger loop that he’s not even close to begin­ning to get a handle on, and I find him an object of some pity rather than indig­na­tion. In both cases we’re mak­ing judg­ments based on what’s at hand. And what’s at hand is what’s been delivered to us.

LimeyI was talk­ing about this sort of thing with my friends and fel­low blog­gers David Cairns and The Self-Styled Siren the oth­er night, and Terence Stamp came up. I met Stamp for the first and, I think, only time in Toronto in 1999, where he was pro­mot­ing his film with Steven Soderbergh, The Limey. Stamp was short­er than I had ima­gined him (with a hand­ful of exceptions—Eastwood, Liam Neeson, Robert Plant—almost all celebrit­ies are) but was massively impress­ive in every oth­er respect. His bear­ing was almost regal, his cloth­ing natty but cas­u­al. His voice was a sub­dued deep boom, some­thing of a shock to hear com­ing from his com­pact frame. There was some­thing genu­inely magis­teri­al about him. He was ter­rific­ally friendly, or gave the impres­sion of being ter­rific­ally friendly as he did what was his job at that moment, which was to work, as it were, the room; this was a party that was thrown by Première magazine and atten­ded by vari­ous rep­res­ent­at­ives of loc­al and inter­na­tion­al media and he was, you know, plug­ging a film that was giv­ing him an oppor­tun­ity to make some­thing of a, you know, artist­ic impres­sion after a (brief, admit­tedly) string of not-entirely-distinguished pictures. 
Dead  I asked him, of course, about work­ing with Fellini on Toby Dammit, some wonky stuff about the English-dialogue ver­sion of the not-quite-feature (it’s an epis­ode in the very mixed Poe antho­logy pic­ture Spirits of the Dead),and he spoke, warmly about doing some impro­visa­tion for his char­ac­ter, a shagged-out proto-punk film star on a con­tin­ent­al jun­ket and date with doom. In any event, there was some­thing so very def­in­ite and alive about his per­son­al self-presentation that one got an entirely dif­fer­ent sense than one might get in the pres­ence of an Eastwood, or of a DeNiro; a sense not quite of a puppet-master of characters—for one thing, Stamp is not that chamele­on­ic of an actor—but rather the sense of a benign artist­ic deity who gifts us with these mani­fest­a­tions of him­self that are not quite the authen­t­ic thing but which would­n’t throb with the kind of life that they do were it not for the anim­at­ing pres­ence of the Real behind it. One felt, with Stamp, that there was a genu­ine there there. Whereas, to invoke anoth­er inter­na­tion­al star, the more you “know” of Alain Delon, the more you sense that he’s just an unpleas­ant dumb lug that the cam­era once loved very much. 

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  • Chris O. says:

    This is beside the point (and I men­tioned the example before, though I haven’t read Denby’s review), but I think the look­ing back long­ingly in “Knight and Day” is done, per­haps, with a wink, rather than a sad sigh. I could be grasp­ing at straws, but at one point, Cruise even looks out above his RayBans “Risky Business”-style; he walks down an exot­ic city street à la “Eyes Wide Shut;” pilots a plane in a scene; of course, then there’s the whole “Mission: Impossible” per­sona, and I drew (long shot) con­nec­tions to “Vanilla Sky” and “Jerry Maguire.” It actu­ally made the film more enjoyable.

  • Tony Dayoub says:

    This is a non-argument as far as I’m con­cerned, and I believe this is largely what you’re say­ing also, Glenn. Isn’t it a giv­en one should con­sider Eastwood’s screen per­sona in appre­ci­at­ing the films he’s dir­ec­ted? Would this even be a ques­tion in anoth­er field of art?
    The point is, of course, wheth­er this is why Eastwood gets a crit­ic­al pass from you. But isn’t the oth­er side of this that his films are sharply attacked for the same reas­on? GRAN TORINO got fairly slammed by those who could not dis­tin­guish the film’s Walt Kowalski from Harry Callahan, con­flat­ing the char­ac­ter­’s deep-seated racism with Callahan’s right-wing tend­en­cies. But as I argued in this blog at the time of its release, would GRAN TORINO have been so polar­iz­ing had it been dir­ec­ted by someone like John Ford? Kowalski, and the way he is used as a vehicle for the film’s con­cerns, bear a strong resemb­lance to THE SEARCHERS and its protagonist.
    So why was­n’t Eastwood cred­ited for mak­ing GRAN TORINO in the clas­sic­al Fordian tradition?

  • Asher says:

    Why was­n’t he cred­ited for mak­ing GRAN TORINO in the clas­sic­al Fordian tra­di­tion? Because GRAN TORNIO, as one clev­er crit­ic wrote at the time it came out, plays some­thing like a hybrid of CRASH and a Dennis the Menace car­toon. Racism? Right-wing tend­en­cies? Who even cares about that when the thing’s writ­ten and dir­ec­ted with the sub­tlety of a middle-school play? If Ford were dir­ect­ing this movie, do you think he’d allow the screen­writer to include dia­logue between the Eastwood char­ac­ter­’s sons like “Look at the Old Man glar­ing at Ashley” and “What do you expect? Dad’s still liv­ing in the 50s. He expects his grand­daugh­ter to dress a little more mod­estly”? Ford would show you the glare with no words, because no words are needed, in one shot of the girl and one close-up of Clint, and he would­n’t let Eastwood act like an SNL par­ody of him­self. Ford did­n’t have to under­line every point that he made, nor was he so giv­en to mak­ing so many insip­id points. That’s just one of the things that sep­ar­ates him from the incom­pet­ent hack Eastwood’s become in the twi­light of his career.

  • Oliver C says:

    [Cruise] walks down an exot­ic city street à la ‘Eyes Wide Shut’…”
    If only Cruise really had walked down actu­al New York streets in ‘Eyes Wide Shut’, as opposed to uncon­vin­cing sets and pro­cess screens!

  • Dan says:

    The NYT graced us with anoth­er such “everything’s-going-to-hell” art­icle just today:
    Whatever Happened to Mystery?
    http://www.nytimes.com/2010/07/18/fashion/18mystery.html?_r=1&hpw

  • I.B. says:

    Gran Torino’ is more Fulleresque than Fordian. And that accounts for it work­ing des­pite or maybe because of the absurdit­ies of the approach.

  • The Jake Leg Kid says:

    Is it really pos­sible for an act­or to have appeared in as many films as Robert DeNiro has without ever hav­ing revealed his true self on screen? If every film truly is in part a doc­u­ment­ary of its own mak­ing, this would seem impossible. Maybe DeNiro’s opa­city is his true self and the mis­take lies in try­ing to see some­thing behind it. As for Eastwood, I tend to look at things the oth­er way around. In oth­er words, the know­ledge that the man on screen dir­ec­ted BIRD imbues his under­play­ing with a soul­ful­ness and guile that I might not see in it oth­er­wise. Of course, this is likely a product of only hav­ing encountered Eastwood when he was well into his dir­ect­ing career.

  • Tony Dayoub says:

    Asher, even Ford’s dia­logue can ring too literal-minded when taken out of con­text. But since “clev­er” is your bag, I don’t expect you to understand.

  • @ Asher: Yes, that. Exactly.
    @ Tony: You’re right that this would­n’t even be a ques­tion in anoth­er field of art. Because in every oth­er field, it’s treated as a giv­en that ser­i­ous cri­ti­cism engages with the work itself, not the media per­sona of the cre­at­or. Indeed, in most oth­er fields of art, it’s con­sidered sort of retro to read the work through the lens of the artist’s persona—it’s kind of an odd his­tor­ic­al acci­dent that film stud­ies became very hung up on the author just as ser­i­ous lit­er­ary cri­ti­cism was pro­claim­ing said author dead.

  • Haice says:

    It’s all the artist’s per­sona. Richard Wagner, Oscar Wilde, Salvador Dali for quick examples in three dif­fer­ent arts. Are we talk­ing cross over today? I don’t see much diver­gence with Eastwood’s pro­fes­sion­al­ism from act­or to director.
    What about an act­or who is a Sunday paint­er and has a massive art gal­lery open­ing? Or an act­or who writes a nov­el or makes music? do we give them passes? Maybe. It’s an inter­est­ing point Glenn. What about the great Norman Mailer dir­ect­ing “Tough Guys Don’t Dance”? Did you give that a pass in someone’s eyes or like it for what it is…pure Mailer?

  • Glenn Kenny says:

    Tough Guys” is a VERY unusu­al film even by the pecu­li­ar stand­ard estab­lished by the Mailer filmo­graphy in toto. It’s dif­fi­cult for me to dis­cuss in this for­um without feel­ing con­flic­ted because (sorry if this sounds like name-dropping) I’ve grown friendly with a couple of the man’s rel­at­ives recently; one is a rel­at­ively close neigh­bor. I bug him some­times that I want him to come over and watch the whacked-out adapt­a­tion of NM’s already quite unusu­al “An American Dream” for an impromptu com­ment­ary. It’s gonna have to wait until my TV is fixed. But long story short, I think “Tough Guys” is…fascinating.

  • Chris O. says:

    No ques­tions for Stamp about “Teorema”?

  • Evelyn Roak says:

    Leaving aside Clint Eastwood for a moment, Fuzzy, you don’t really believe that, do you? A nov­el­ist’s life is nev­er men­tioned in the cri­ti­cism? Nor a paint­ers? How in the whole wide world does one explain what is writ­ten about Matthew Barney by that stand­ard? Or Jonathan Safren (Saffron) Foer or Michael Chabon, to use mod­ern examples (as you claim the oth­er arts have moved on, though Philip Roth, for example, is still writ­ing, and still being writ­ten about the same way)? One can argue wheth­er this is a good thing, as is being done in this very post and dis­cus­sion, (or if the above men­tioned artists are any good. I’m inclined, out­side of Roth, to say no) (and I’m not even stak­ing a claim here) but to pre­tend that there are large swaths of cri­ti­cism in the oth­er arts that don’t do the same thing that is being leveled at dis­cus­sions of Eastwood, and the whole of film, is pat­ently absurd.
    The qual­i­fi­er of “ser­i­ous lit­er­ary cri­ti­cism” and invok­ing the “death of the author” here also is sta­ging a fight on grounds that are not level (and are wildly dif­fer­ent in regards to the con­text of the prac­tice and place of those cri­ti­cisms and their vary­ing his­tor­ies). No offense to Glenn here, and none is inten­ded in any way, but there is a dif­fer­ence, in intent and form (without a hier­archy of either being priv­ileged over the oth­er) in the type of essay this is and say an essay in a journ­al like October. If you want to com­pare aca­dem­ic lit­er­ary and film or paint­ing or music cri­ti­cism the pic­ture is much different.

  • Glenn Kenny says:

    @ Evelyn: No offense taken, and in fact I’m in com­plete agreement.

  • @ Evelyn: Partly, yes, I am think­ing of the dif­fer­ent kinds of criticism—in lit-crit, at least, the kind that’s heav­ily indebted to bio­graphy is con­sidered middlebrow at best, tabloid trash at worst. Yes, when a nov­el is fea­tured on radio inter­views, the nov­el­ist will be the front­man, but that’s well under­stood to be the oppos­ite of ser­i­ous cri­ti­cism, which is typ­ic­ally focused on the text and dis­dain­ful of attempts to parse the author’s inten­tion. This has been the case, really, ever since the New Criticism of the 30s.
    I’m not sure which writ­ings on Barney or Chabon you have in mind, so I can­’t speak to that. But like I said above, it seems to me that the major dis­tinc­tion between ser­i­ous and minor cri­ti­cism in oth­er fields, as called out by Tony, is the ratio of author to text under con­sid­er­a­tion, but in film cri­ti­cism, the ratio is oddly reversed. In any oth­er field, it’s well-established that if you’re talk­ing about the author’s inten­tions, you’re writ­ing a magazine pro­file, but if you want to write cri­ti­cism, you ana­lyze the text, and don’t let the author’s inten­tions cor­rupt that ana­lys­is (since it’s pretty gen­er­ally agreed that a work of art is a tricksy thing, with a marked tend­ency to express things its author might not have intended).
    As I come to bet­ter under­stand how auteur the­ory is used, I get less and less impressed by it. I came to film from lit­er­at­ure, and thought of auteur the­ory as some­thing akin to death-of-the-author ideas in the CompLit department—by down­grad­ing the import­ance of the scrib­bling geni­us, you get to treat things once regarded as flot­sam as a coher­ent text. This can some­times spir­al off into critic-centric non­sense, but at best it allows for fas­cin­at­ing read­ings of previously-ignored mater­i­al, read­ings which can parse the view­er­’s indi­vidu­al exper­i­ence of a work, which is always more import­ant than the artist’s inten­tion any­way. But I’m start­ing to sus­pect that even for its founders, auteur the­ory was merely a resur­rec­tion of nineteenth-century Great Man the­ory, a way to end­lessly replay stale dra­mas of authori­al heroism.

  • The Siren says:

    @Dan: Someone needs to show Ben Brantley the latest Isabelle Huppert interview.
    I’ve always found the inter­sec­tion between the real lives of act­ors (and dir­ect­ors and oth­er film artists) and their screen work to be inter­est­ing, at the very least. Sometimes it’s illu­min­at­ing, as I have argued with Joan Crawford and George Sanders, for example. Other times it most decidedly is not–and to Glenn’s example of Delon I would add the act­or’s one­time lov­er Brigitte Bardot as an example of a film per­son whose real life and thoughts I really, truly wish I had nev­er encountered in any for­um any­where at any time.
    But I don’t think all such inquir­ies are intrins­ic­ally worth­less, even if they are far from the most import­ant work of a crit­ic. In fact, with film, the attempt to sever entirely the per­sona of the artist in gen­er­al (and stars in par­tic­u­lar) from ser­i­ous ana­lys­is is prob­ably doomed to failure.

  • Tony Dayoub says:

    Fuzzy Bastard, I com­pletely agree that an author’s inten­tions should bear min­im­al impact on cri­ti­cism. Keeping with my GRAN TORINO example, I’m cer­tain that THE SEARCHERS, Ford, and Harry Callahan played little part in Eastwood’s CONSCIOUS choices when craft­ing his film (Callahan prob­ably being one he prob­ably could­n’t com­pletely push out of his mind). But know­ing about an artist’s life, mile­stones in his career, etc., def­in­itely provides a road map from which one can draw cer­tain conclusions.
    One con­clu­sion I draw (and I’m only being reduct­ive for the sake of expedi­ency) is that Eastwood’s films are a reac­tion against his pop­u­lar per­sona, in ways he would­n’t care to admit. I’m sure he would refuse to admit his inten­tion is only to show he is a multi-dimensional per­son who should­n’t be defined by the albatross of Dirty Harry.

  • Evelyn Roak says:

    Fuzzy, you are com­par­ing apples and oranges. And what exactly do you mean by “ser­i­ous cri­ti­cism”? The point I was mak­ing was that to com­pare the kind of essay that was writ­ten here, or on ana­log­ous sites, or in ana­log­ous pub­lic­a­tions, to what you seem to be allud­ing to, aca­dem­ic lit­er­ary cri­ti­cism, is an unfair and spuri­ous thing to do. The more accur­ate par­al­lel would be some­thing like The New York Review of Books, or Bookforum, or n+1, etc. in which one reg­u­larly finds cri­ti­cism that engages with the authori­al pres­ence, image and recep­tion. Now, if you wish to look at equi­val­ent aca­dem­ic film cri­ti­cism I think you would find a cri­ti­cism very dif­fer­ent in char­ac­ter and pur­pose, one that lines up much more read­ily with the aca­dem­ic lit­er­ary cri­ti­cism you allude to in approach, schol­ar­ship and focus (with all the dif­fer­ing meth­od­o­lo­gies, camps and feuds and rival pub­lic­a­tions that go along with it ((this is meant lovingly))).
    You also bring up here the dis­tinc­tion of tex­tu­al ana­lys­is and authori­al inten­tion, hardly a new battle to be fought. But it is also a sidestep away from the issue at hand. The ques­tion­ing here (and you seem to be con­fus­ing ques­tion­ing with espous­ing) is not about authorial/directorial intent but about the com­plic­a­tions of an actor/directors screen-image as an act­or and its rela­tion­ship to the audi­ence in their work as a dir­ect­or. This is a very dif­fer­ent thing than what the lead­ers of the New Criticism fought against, is very dif­fer­ent from Roland Barthes, is very dif­fer­ent from Paul de Man and is a far dif­fer­ent thing than what you seem to see as akin here.
    I am not sure how famil­i­ar you are with aca­dem­ic film cri­ti­cism, as you say your back­ground is in lit­er­at­ure, but you seem to be con­flat­ing two very dif­fer­ent forms of cri­ti­cism and draw­ing an inef­fect­ive par­al­lel. That is the dis­tinc­tion that I was attempt­ing to make above. Further, in prompt­ing the com­par­is­on of the rise of auteur the­ory and “death of the author” trends in lit­er­ary ana­lys­is one must look much deep­er at the place, time and his­tory of both the art and crit­ic­al dis­cip­lines which engage them in a way that is very dif­fer­ent from what is being asked here.

  • Chris O. says:

    Maybe this isn’t apt, but the example of Mel Brooks tak­ing his name off “Elephant Man” and “The Fly” just occurred to me. He made it a point to avoid confusion/conflation.

  • jim emerson says:

    Wow, a Bill Evans/Orrin Keepnews head­line! I love it.

  • Lou says:

    Damm. Toby Dammit is scary.

  • The Louis Malle install­ment is still my favor­ite part of Spirits of the Dead, but Toby Dammit is an incred­ibly fun source of VJ material.