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Not sixteen years old

By February 8, 2012No Comments

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…AND I make anoth­er lame vari­ation on that Steve Coogan joke in my prop­er review of Journey 2: The Mysterious Island, star­ring, yes, Michael Caine, Dwayne Johnson, Luis Guzman, and the delight­ful and effer­ves­cent in-her-twenties Vanessa Hudgens. Also under con­sid­er­a­tion, Woody Harrelson and Owen Moverman’s bad cop drama, Rampart. For MSN Movies

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  • Dan Coyle says:

    I actu­ally liked Hudgens a lot in BandSlam, because she was able to con­vin­cingly por­tray someone with­drawn and anti­so­cial des­pite the fact she looked like Vanessa Anne Hudgens.

  • Glenn Kenny says:

    I have NO PROBLEM with the Hudge. This par­tic­u­lar vehicle did not rep­res­ent much of a chal­lenge to her, not show­case much in the way of her per­form­ance skills!

  • Phil Freeman says:

    So is RAMPART pretty much a rehash of DARK BLUE (also Ellroy-scripted, but set in ’92 and with Kurt Russell in the Harrelson part)?

  • Glenn Kenny says:

    @ Phil: As far as I’m con­cerned, it coulda stood to have been MORE like DARK BLUE, which I recall with slight albeit def­in­ite fond­ness. (Big Kurt Russell fan.) You know, mitt a plot, that kind of thing. Whatever vir­tues RAMPART boasts, nar­rat­ive momentum isn’t exactly one of them.

  • lipranzer says:

    I think the prob­lem with RAMPART is while Moverman made an admir­able attempt to find a visu­al equi­val­ent of Ellroy’s rat-a-tat prose style, he does so at the expense of the story and the char­ac­ter rela­tion­ships. I still have no idea what pur­pose Wright’s char­ac­ter served in the movie.
    Having said that, this is one of the best per­form­ances Harrelson has ever giv­en (one thing this has in com­mon with the oth­er­wise far super­i­or DARK BLUE is, like Kurt Russell in that movie, you nev­er see Harrelson con­des­cend to his char­ac­ter or apo­lo­gize for him), and is worth watch­ing because of that.

  • jbryant says:

    I thought the first JOURNEY movie was a pleas­ant sur­prise. A lot of fun, def­in­itely in the spir­it of those kids’ adven­tures of yore (yore being the early 60s). And there was a fetch­ing young woman in that one, too (though not quite as young as Hudgens), an Icelandic act­ress named Anita Briem, whose career seems not to have benefited from it one bit, unfortunately.

  • Lex says:

    LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOK
    AT
    HER!
    LOOK AT HER.
    How annoy­ing is Josh Hutcherson, though? Why do teen girls always like com­plete douchebags, instead of me?

  • Glenn Kenny says:

    Hmm. The ques­tion likely answers itself, in sev­er­al ways.
    What I found note­worthy about Hutcherson—not to put a jinx on him or his career or anything—is the extent to which he comes off like a slightly mil­quetoasted vari­ant on Brad Renfro. It’s ALMOST creepy. That said, I hope things work out bet­ter for this kid, that’s for sure.

  • Lex says:

    Glenn when are you going to devote 50 art­icles to the GORIN BOXED SET, since you’re the ONLY mother­fuck­er likely to ever watch it?
    ROUTINE PLEASURES POWER. “That was FAAAAARBER, ALWAYS DOING THINGS.”
    See? I’m smarter than you. Bet a MILLION DOLLARS Kenny has nev­er seen ROUTINE PLEASURES, and I saw it six times. MY CRASY LIFE POWER.

  • Oliver_C says:

    I *was* temp­ted to get the Gorin Box, I’ll admit… 🙂

  • Oliver_C says:

    POTO AND CABENGO OWER-PAY.

  • Lex says:

    Yes but is every­body LOOKING AT HER?
    LOOK AT HER. Oh my GOD is she cute. WANT HER. She was on Fallon last night play­ing “Shoe Golf” and showed her feet. FEET!
    Does she show her feet in the movie? Probably not, since in all the posters she has on some HIKING BOOTS, which is NOT COOL.
    BOO. HUDGENSY. SO CUTE. DON’T YOU WANT HER? I WISH I COULD KNOW HER.
    YAY CUTE. CUTE. CUUUUUUUUUTE LOOK AT HER. Usually I don’t go in for Filipinas at ALL, but she’s SO COOL.

  • warren oates says:

    I thor­oughly detested RAMPART. What a com­plete waste of hours. I had hopes that the Ellroy script would have some com­pel­ling details and insights into the world of more con­tem­por­ary L.A. poli­cing. But the fin­ished film is just a prot­ag­on­ist pity party, wherein each scene con­sists of Harrelson doing some­thing naughty to piss someone off so that they yell at him and he can yell back. Since there’s no story, no real oppor­tun­ity for inter­est­ing dra­mat­ic choices or con­flict, I sup­pose this is the kind of thing that politely gets called a “char­ac­ter study.” With spas­tic, ugly cine­ma­to­graphy to boot. By con­trast it makes some­thing like THE SHIELD look like the Dickensian mas­ter­piece it isn’t. Ick.

  • Lex says:

    How can some­body be dis­missive of THE SHIELD, which is argu­ably more awe­some and CERTAINLY more elec­tric than even every­body’s favor­ite TV boner objects like The Wire and Sopranos? Anyone who does­n’t like The Shield does­n’t deserve a screen handle like “Warren Oates.”
    Maybe next up, “Charles Bronson” can tell me how “Heat” sucks.

  • warren oates says:

    Um, because in THE SHIELD it’s not merely the cine­ma­to­graphy that’s spas­tic. It’s the whole durn show. Shawn Ryan’s show is not so much elec­tric as hys­ter­ic. And yeah, for the record, THE WIRE and THE SOPRANOS – even in their crap­pi­est sea­sons – put it to shame and give me a far lar­ger TV boner. Though I have to agree with you, Lex, about Gorin. As far as essay film docu boners go, there are few that get me harder.

  • Mark David Chapstick says:

    Oh, great. LexG, pro­fes­sion­al jagoff, has brought his lame schtick to this site. Awesome. What’s the mat­ter, Todd, the creeps at HE not pay­ing enough atten­tion to you?

  • jbryant says:

    Lex has been here many times before, Mark David Chapshtick.
    I haven’t seen THE SHIELD, but may catch up with it one of these days. Jaime Christley was always high on it, and it’s got Walton Goggins, so how bad can it be?
    Haven’t seen any Gorin either, but I’ll join the chor­us of CUUUUUTE for Hudgens. Saw an ad for JOURNEY 2 last night, and wished I could think of an excuse to freeze the frame on a shot of her without mak­ing the girl­friend sus­pi­cious. Maybe I should’ve tried, “Hey, honey, would you like a pair of those hik­ing boots?”

  • Lex says:

    Nothing wrong with some­thing being “hys­ter­ic­al”– that’s the tone of the show, which is as SPOT ON a por­trait of Los Angeles as EVER has been put to film; Instead of the usu­al Lawrence Kasdan/Judd Apatow Westside bull­shit L.A. or neutered cop shows, The Shield is a mul­ti­eth­nic, fren­zied assault of non­stop in-your-face hos­til­ity that seems a lot more legit than Simon’s “Wire” world of SUPER CONTRIVED char­ac­ters like Prop Joe, Omar, and Stringer Bell, who are TOO beau­ti­fully writ­ten and elo­quent; I love “The Wire,” too, but it ALWAYS seemed to have a high Civics Lesson Bullshit Factor, that LEGALIZE IT sea­son being a prime offend­er, and the 5th sea­son ref­er­en­dum on journ­al­ist­ic integ­rity not far behind; Also always seemed like Simon was work­ing off old research from the ’80s or early ’90s, minus throw­ing in whatever (now dated) street slang was big circa 2004 (amus­ing when one sea­son every­body starts say­ing “GRINDING!” like every two words.) Brilliant as that show could be– and McNulty is a GOD, and the fourth year was bey­ond reproach– it also had a bit of a This Is For White People Who’ve Never Met a Black Guy vibe to it, like you could just ima­gine these sheltered white elites all mes­mer­ized like, “THIS is how THEY really talk! THIS IS WHAT THE STREETS ARE LIKE!”
    I don’t know a single actu­al black guy who’s ever been into THE WIRE, but I’ve always had an itch­ing feel­ing they’d think a lot of it rings kind of phony and limo-lib.

  • Tom Block says:

    Good god, the fourth sea­son was the arti­fi­cial and con­trived one–you knew from the get-go what fates lay in the store for those four kids; the rest of the sea­son was a mat­ter of wait­ing to see which fate was going to get dished out to just which kid. Season 3, though, had one of the most sat­is­fy storylines that any of these TV nov­els have giv­en us. It was worth it just for the scene where McNulty stumbles onto Amsterdam and then has to get his head around Bunny Colvin’s experiment.

  • warren oates says:

    Can’t agree with Tom Block about THE WIRE’s Season 4. It’s Season 5 that’s ludicrous, mostly because Simon was quite clearly too close to the exper­i­ence of news­pa­per­ing to treat it with any cre­at­ive dis­tance at all and sec­ond­ar­ily because of the ridicu­lous character-betraying twists neces­sary to jus­ti­fy the seri­al murder hoax plot device.
    And, yeah, Lex, I have African American friends who enjoy THE WIRE. And, no, Lex, they aren’t former cops, corner boys or addicts. But really isn’t this line of reas­on­ing akin to cri­ti­ciz­ing, say, OLIVER TWIST because you know a Victorian orphan and he does­n’t like read­ing and even if he did he’d nev­er read any­thing like it because every­body knows there’s no such thing as Fagin.

  • Glenn Kenny says:

    How irrit­at­ing, Warren Oates, that you’re using some­thing resem­bling a reasoned argu­ment in an attempt to deprive Lex of the sub­lime pleas­ure of chas­tising you for lib­er­al pan­der­ing. The nerve!

  • Owain Wilson says:

    I always had a thing for Sharpay!

  • James Keepnews says:

    Yes, Season 5 of THE WIRE is the one where the show goes off the rails and into a dis­pir­it­ing will on David Simon’s part to settle scores with the Baltimore Sun, to indulge his leaden buddy “Wild” Bill Zorzi, &c., &c. But. It also fea­tures pos­sibly the most intense toe-to-toe of evenly matched rivals in the his­tory of American tele­vi­sion and, fuck yeah, I’m talk­ing about Omar vs. Marlo.
    And, for that, while THE SHIELD did­n’t always live up to its hype, damned if that final sea­son – and esp. those final two epis­odes – did­n’t wreak some bru­tal karm­ic retri­bu­tion on Mackey’s series-long ava­lanche of turpitude. Chiklis et al. (not least the estim­able Mr. Goggins) stepped up and unleashed the most wrench­ing con­clu­sion to any tele­vi­sion series I can think of. I’m hop­ing for a sim­il­arly dev­ast­at­ing dénoue­ment to former SHIELD pro­du­cer Kurt Sutter’s SONS OF ANARCHY – short of the whole club spend­ing thir­teen weeks in a con­fes­sion­al and the Feds inex­plic­ably sav­ing their asses (again), I can­’t ima­gine how it could end any oth­er way.

  • Lex says:

    The DOCK WORKERS sea­son with that jerkoff Ziggy was­n’t always set­ting the world on fire either. Other than Chris Bauer and that Ziggy’s Cousin’s Girlfriend’s AMAZING rack, the whole docks storyline was bor­der­line deadly.
    Really only 1 and 4 were sol­id gold all the way through. S3 suf­fers from BUNNY COLVIN’S FREE RANGE HEROIN AND CRACK FARM; I know pro­gress­ive types love this sea­son because it’s preach­ing to the LEGALIZE IT choir like manna from the heav­ens, but Herc and Carv as secur­ity guards stand­ing around while dudes SHOOT UP IN PUBLIC was bor­der­ing on sci-fi ter­rit­ory. I also doubt that even the hard­est of hard­core junkies wanna hang out in some bombed out hell­hole to get high, and would be so obed­i­ent about keep­ing said pur­suits with­in Bunny’s lock­down area.
    Also was it ever made expli­cit on the show if Bubbles was gay? Doesn’t mat­ter, I just nev­er under­stood if he was some ment­or fig­ure to the KIDS dude and whatever oth­er young­er guys he’d roll with, or if he was actu­ally gay. Or if he was Gregory Hines in EVE OF DESTRUCTION.

  • warren oates says:

    I can­’t believe I for­got to add this, but last year I met a teach­er who taught at the self­same school fea­tured in Season 4 of THE WIRE while they were shoot­ing it and, nat­ur­ally, I asked him what it was “really” like, since I ima­gined there must have been obvi­ous dra­mat­ic exag­ger­a­tions and over­sights for the sake of nar­rat­ive eco­nomy. “Pretty much just like the show,” he said.

  • Josh says:

    I’m won­der­ing about these “single actu­al black guy“s Lex knows, and his spec­u­la­tion about why they aren’t into The Wire. I mean, could­n’t you just have asked them why when you were dis­cuss­ing it?

  • Bettencourt says:

    Am I the only WIRE devotee who thinks the fifth sea­son was first-rate and hugely under­rated? (Season Two was for me the weak­est, but only really in com­par­is­on with how incred­ible the oth­er sea­sons are).
    As a big fan of THE MESSENGER, I was hugely dis­ap­poin­ted by RAMPART, espe­cially when about mid-way through the story (I know, I should prob­ably put “story” in quotes), the dir­ec­tion sud­denly looks like a first-year film stu­dent took over the cam­era – the annoy­ing pans in the Buscemi-Weaver-Harrelson scene, that res­taur­ant scene where the cam­era plants itself at the back of Ned Beatty’s head, the scene where the cam­era moves inex­or­ably into Robin Wright’s eye like it’s set­ting up a shot for a Susanne Bier film…
    And before we com­pletely give up the top­ic of TV, are there any oth­er SHERLOCK fans here?

  • Tom Russell says:

    Bettencourt: I’m of the opin­ion that the fifth sea­son was ter­rif­ic, if a little “rushed”– not that they did­n’t do the work, I think they did, but because they did­n’t have as much time as I think they needed to tell that par­tic­u­lar story.
    I think THE WIRE is the only com­pletely unim­peach­able work of tele­vi­sion. Every per­form­ance, every scene– there’s not a moment that was­n’t earned or did­n’t deliver.

  • Tom Block says:

    I only men­tioned the fourth sea­son because that was the one Lex brought up, but I’m with Lyle Gorch on S5, espe­cially the left-field serial-killer story. But things like Michael tak­ing over Omar’s role in the end was­n’t just a schem­at­ic con­veni­ence, it was a *feel-good* schem­at­ic con­veni­ence that felt espe­cially false com­ing after all those scenes of Omar los­ing his mojo. History does have a way of repeat­ing itself, but it’s usu­ally not so lit­er­al when it does it.
    Season 2 only loses me dur­ing the scenes in the port bar–that’s one tin ear at work when the work­ing stiffs are remin­is­cing and so on. But I’m a big fan of the sea­son over­all, but any show whose ini­tial spark comes from Frank Valchek’s hissy-fit over a church win­dow already has me eat­ing out of its hand. The Greek’s escape was bit­ter enough to blow Jake Gittes’ mind, and of all of the series’ sac­ri­fi­cial goats–Wallace and Bunny & Co.–none of ’em got me like Frank Sobotka. (When the ME went out of his way to say “He put up quite a fight”, it just killed me.) And it for sure has the best season-ending mont­age of all the candidates…

  • Dan Coyle says:

    Whenever Lex goes on these kinds of rants I won­der if he’s not try­ing to con­vince him­self of some­thing, rather than us. I have my own issues with the Wire, but sneer­ingly call­ing it “limo-lib” feels like he’s try­ing to escape the fact that it shows him things he feels bad about, and Lex does­n’t like feel­ing bad about things.

  • MarkVH says:

    Oh, come on now people. Just because Lex has a tend­ency toward insane rant­ing does­n’t mean he does­n’t have a val­id argu­ment on this. I’m an unabashed lov­er of The Wire and have turned many of my friends into evan­gel­ists for it (just fin­ished my second re-watch of S1), and even I can admit that at times Simon’s polem­ic feels like a civics les­son. It’s a beau­ti­fully writ­ten and con­struc­ted civics les­son, no ques­tion, and I don’t know that it feels like lib­er­al pan­der­ing so much as liber­tari­an pan­der­ing (gov­ern­ment gets raked over the coals as much as any of the oth­er insti­tu­tions). But it IS preachy as all hell, no more so than in the fifth sea­son but even as early as Season 1 (the McNugget argu­ment, the chess game). I love it because the crime ele­ments are so per­fectly tuned and the char­ac­ters so well-drawn, and because the prob­lems it raises are real and well-argued. But Simon rarely offers work­able solu­tions, and it does often come off like a lecture.

  • Dan Coyle says:

    Oh, I do con­cede that it’s far more gliber­tari­an and nihil­hist­ic than I sus­pect Simon, who, last time I checked, is no free mar­ket dis­ciple, intended.

  • warren oates says:

    Except Lex’s charges are more about the authen­ti­city of THE WIRE’s world and its fans then the show’s them­at­ic heaviosity.