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"The Wolf of Wall Street"

By December 17, 2013No Comments

Wolf

 “Once, my fath­er told me that the dif­fer­ence between the aver­age Briton and the aver­age American was that a Briton looks at a man driv­ing a Ferrari and thinks, ‘What a b*****d,’ while an American thinks, ‘I’ll be him one day.’ This my fath­er con­sidered a great vir­tue — as do I. By the time that I was ten years old, I didn’t just think that America was the world’s great hope, I knew it.”

That’s Charles C. W. Cooke, a British-born writer for National Review, in a piece for that magazine’s online out­let, a piece titled “Why I Despair,” which title is fol­lowed by a sub­hed read­ing “The cent­ral prob­lem is that America, know­ing Obama, gave him a second term.” This is not the sole piece of writ­ing in which Mr. Cooke trots out that cute little Ferrari story, but the story neither gains nor loses charm in dif­fer­ent con­texts. (The coy aster­isks black­ing out the word “bas­tard” are the author’s own.)

Anyway, The Wolf of Wall Street—writ­ten by Terence Winter, adap­ted from a book by Jordan Belfort, star­ring Leonardo DiCaprio, and dir­ec­ted by Martin Scorsese, who co-produced the pic­ture with DiCaprio—is about a guy who drives a Ferrari. The guy—whose name is, it hap­pens, Jordan Belfort (for Belfort’s book is about his own early life)—drives a Ferrari that, he emphat­ic­ally points out early in the movie, is white, not red. This is import­ant for the movie of his life to get right, he avers, because there’s a reas­on the Ferrari he bought is white. That reas­on is because the Ferrari that Don Johnson drove on the tele­vi­sion series Miami Vice was white. Not red. The movie is about why he, and maybe why you, want the Ferrari in the first place. And about how the Ferrari is gotten. 

There is a struc­tur­al sim­il­ar­ity to Scorsese’s 1990 Goodfellas, but there are cru­cial dif­fer­ences too. While Goodfellas main­tained a nearly break­neck pace through­out, Wolf of Wall Street has a start-stop rhythm. There are break­neck fast-forward voice-over led sequences that give way to long scenes, scenes which a lot of crit­ics have called point­less. For instance, once fin­ance tyro Belfort is mak­ing ridicu­lous money head­ing up his fake-respectable firm of Stratton Oakmont, the view­er learns that Belfort’s fath­er (played bril­liantly by Rob Reiner) has a prodi­giously bad tem­per, and was hired to over­see Stratton Oakmont’s books. What fol­lows is a con­fer­ence room scene in which Belfort and his seni­or staffers are sit­ting around very earn­estly dis­cuss­ing the dwarves that they are look­ing to hire for some in-house rev­elry. Because they now inhab­it a world in which everything is com­mod­i­fied, their talk is half earn­est, half “can­’t believe we’re get­ting away with this shit” shitty awe, trad­ing obser­va­tions about how you should nev­er look a dwarf in the eye and how the wee folk gos­sip among them­selves. It’s only after sev­er­al minutes of this that Reiner’s char­ac­ter bursts in, fit to pop a blood ves­sel over a cor­por­ate American Express bill just shy of half a mil­lion dol­lars. Can one genu­inely not see the point of this scene, or would one just rather not? In any event, from where I sat the banter among these young cap­it­al­ists was Ionesco out of early Python—and by early Python I mean Swiftian Rage Python. It’s import­ant to remem­ber that it’s at the very begin­ning of the movie that a char­ac­ter played by Matthew McConaughey explains that the entire edi­fice of invest­ment bank­ing is built on a “fugazi,” or “fairy dust.” Think of all the people who got incred­ibly angry and genu­inely out­raged when the cur­rent head of the Catholic Church said “How can it not be that it is not a news item when an eld­erly home­less per­son dies of expos­ure, but it is news when the stock mar­ket loses two points?”

The movie’s main action is brack­eted by two tele­vi­sion com­mer­cials, each telling the same lie, but at a dif­fer­ent pitch. The first is an extra­vag­antly moun­ted but irre­deem­ably poshlus­ti­an ad for Stratton Oakmont in which a regal, well-groomed line lion strides through the firm­’s offices wherein many ser­i­ous men and a few women make very grand decisions for your fin­an­cial future. The second is a fast-paced, under­lit, shot-on-video-as-in-magnetic-tape ad for Belmont’s post-epiphany get-rich-quick motiv­a­tion­al course. They’re the same com­mer­cial, push­ing the same dream, the dream that Jordan Belfont real­ized by being a criminal. 

Writing about the then-upcoming-on-Broadway music­al Miss Saigon for the New York Times in 1991, the nov­el­ist Robert Stone talked about the much-tossed-about phrase “the American Dream.” “For the record, the phrase ‘the American dream’ is attrib­uted to a his­tor­i­an named James Truslow Adams, who in 1931 wrote a treat­ise called ‘The Epic of America.’ ‘It is not,’ Adams wrote of his American dream, ‘a dream of motor cars and high wages merely, but a dream of a social order in which each man and woman shall be able to attain to the fullest stature of which they are innately cap­able, and be recog­nized by oth­ers for what they are, regard­less of the for­tu­it­ous cir­cum­stances of birth or pos­i­tion.’ Since then the phrase has taken on an adven­tur­ous life of its own. ‘We defend and we build,’ said Franklin D. Roosevelt in one of his fireside chats in 1940, ‘a way of life, not for ourselves alone, but for the world.’ Surely the days are long gone, vic­tory in the Gulf or no, since any­one would say such a thing pub­licly. The young­er con­tem­por­ary American audi­ence is likely nev­er to have heard the phrase ‘the American dream’ used oth­er than iron­ic­ally.” Stone’s a very smart man but he did not have it quite right: then and now, there was a way in which “the American Dream” came to be used abso­lutely unironically. 

Stratton Oakmont is America,” Belfort tells his min­ions in what’s sup­posed to be his “old sol­diers nev­er die” speech. The oppor­tun­ity is sit­ting right in front of your desk, he tells his traders; if your life’s not going the way you want it, “Pick up the phone and start dial­ing.” Look at him: he’s got the trophy wife, the yacht, the Ferrari, and much, much more. Of course, Stratton Oakmont is only America so long as America and Stratton Oakmont are get­ting along. Not ten minutes after this scene, as he lit­er­ally pisses on a sub­poena, Jordan’s second-in-command Donnie (Jonah Hill, also bril­liant, damn him) is lead­ing a chant of “Fuck you U.S.A.” Because, you know, they’re not to happy that the F.B.I. is under the impres­sion that Stratton Oakmont has been break­ing the law. 

Underneath all of the fast-paced “fun” and enter­tain­ment value of the movie that so many crit­ics have been made ecstat­ic by, or made ali­en­ated by,  there lies, ever present, in the fact of the way the frames are com­posed, a dis­tance. And with­in that dis­tance there is a steely anger, that Swiftina rage I men­tioned. The rage only expli­citly shows its hand a couple of times. There’s a bit in one of the nar­rated fast-forward inter­stices in which Belfort details the sexu­al escapades of a female employ­ee, and recounts the fact that one of the male employess at Stratton Oakmont mar­ried her any­way; there’s a couple of shots from their wed­ding album, and then Belfort says blithely, “Then he got depressed and killed him­self,” and the image that accom­pan­ies this, in its fram­ing and grad­ing, is dis­tinctly unlike any­thing else in the film. Then there’s an inter­lude into the world that most of us observe Belfort’s world from, a few quiet, poet­ic (in the T.S. Eliot rather than William Wordworth sense) shots of Kyle Chandler’s F.B.I. agent char­ac­ter on the sub­way. It’s in these brief shots that the genu­ine nerve end­ings of the movie are loc­ated, and these shots are No Fun at all. 

We all remem­ber the story Peter Biskind recounts in Easy Riders, Raging Bulls, dur­ing which one of the exec­ut­ives in charge of Raging Bull’s pro­duc­tion expresses frus­tra­tion at Scorsese, and at  that movie’s lead­ing man Robert De Niro,  that they are mak­ing a movie about someone this exec­ut­ive con­sidered to be “a cock­roach.” To which Scorsese De Niro replies, quietly but very def­in­itely, “He is not a cock­roach. He is not a cockroach.”

Finally, Scorsese has made a movie about a cock­roach. But the cock­roach is not just Jordan Belfort. 

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  • Brian says:

    Excellent stuff Glenn

  • Griff says:

    Fine, thought­ful reflec­tions, Glenn.
    Regarding your con­clud­ing remark, while I don’t have a copy of EASY RIDERS, RAGING BULLS handy, in Steven Bach’s account of that same dis­cus­sion in FINAL CUT it is Robert De Niro who quietly, calmly asserts, “He is not a cock­roach. He is _not_ a cockroach.”

  • Oliver_C says:

    National Review: World Net Daily for poseurs.

  • Wilder says:

    It was actu­ally DeNiro who said, “He is not a cockroach.”

  • Glenn Kenny says:

    Updated/fixed. Thanks. Transcribed the story wrong. Sorry.

  • Kurzleg says:

    Not to ruin the com­ments here with a dive into polit­ic­al philo­sophy, but I’ve nev­er under­stood why some con­sider the amass­ing of great wealth legit­im­ate by defin­i­tion and the impulse to do so a pos­it­ive sign for a cul­ture. This is espe­cially true when those doing the amass­ing don’t seem to pro­duce any last­ing tan­gible value for that cul­ture. I sus­pect this is part of what Scorsese is try­ing to get at with “Wolf”, though I have not seen it yet.

  • Not David Bordwell says:

    Kurzleg: No one who believes that amass­ing wealth is an abso­lute good in and of itself has ever read the work of Adam Smith, I can tell you that. That whole atti­tude is intel­lec­tu­ally fraud­u­lent, at the very least.

  • Chris Labarthe says:

    Excellent piece, Glenn. But don’t you think “Swiftina” gives 30 Rock too much cred­it? (Or is that a “Feylor” mashup?)

  • Cameron says:

    I’m not sure about this talk of “dis­tance,” “steely anger,” “genu­ine nerve end­ings.” For much of its dis­ten­ded run­ning time the film has you (quite lit­er­ally) all up in the heads, noses, and asses of these clowns. More than any­thing you’re invited to share in their ecstas­ies of drugs, sex, swind­ling – wheth­er by DiCaprio’s cocky nar­ra­tion, the by turns woozy and hyper cam­era tech­niques in any of the numer­ous orgies, or the in-your-face smash cuts to such images as two char­ac­ters fuck­ing on a pile of cash. A few choice instances of less cocaine-/quaalude-fueled, more sombre reflec­tion hardly settle the case for the film’s “genu­ine nerve end­ings” (though Chandler on the sub­way does come as a bit of a shock to the sys­tem after pro­longed expos­ure to the shenanigans of DiCaprio and his brahs). In time I may come around to your point about “Swiftian rage,” but for now all I can see is indul­gence in the tal­ent and mil­lions spent bring­ing a bunch of hot­shot phonies’ adven­tures to the big screen – as if there’s any insight left to glean from stor­ies like this, any reas­on we need to listen to shal­low char­ac­ters shout lit­an­ies of “fuck” at each oth­er, or watch them cruise in their yachts with Foo Fighters blast­ing on the soundtrack for five seconds for some reas­on. I think this is what some crit­ics mean by “point­less.”
    Sorry but I really think Scorsese gets a bang out of char­ac­ters like Belfort, has an easi­er time identi­fy­ing with them than keep­ing his dis­tance. Which reminds me of some­thing hil­ari­ous Paul Schrader once said about Scorsese on a vis­it to my film class: “The thin­ner the ice … the faster Marty skates.”

  • Glenn Kenny says:

    How much of a bang does Scorsese does Scorsese get out of Belfort in the almost-never-cited-in-negative-reviews final scene between DiCaprio and Robbie, I wonder.

  • Kurzleg says:

    I’m not sure wheth­er or not this belongs here, but it’s inter­est­ing non­ethe­less. From Belfort’s Wikipedia page:
    According to fed­er­al pro­sec­utors, Belfort has failed to live up to the resti­tu­tion require­ment of his 2003 sen­ten­cing agree­ment. The agree­ment requires him to pay 50% of his income towards resti­tu­tion to the 1,513 cli­ents he defrauded. Of the $11.6 mil­lion that has been recovered by Belfort’s vic­tims, $10.4 mil­lion of the total is the res­ult of the sale of for­feited prop­er­ties. The sen­ten­cing agree­ment man­dates a total of $110 mil­lion in restitution.[10]
    In October 2013, fed­er­al pro­sec­utors filed a com­plaint that Belfort, who had income of $1,767,209 from the pub­lic­a­tion of his two books and the sale of the movie rights, plus an addi­tion­al $24,000 from motiv­a­tion­al speak­ing since 2007, paid resti­tu­tion of only $243,000 over the past four years. However, later in October, the gov­ern­ment with­drew its motion to per­mit fur­ther negotiations.[11]

  • Brian says:

    Genuinely sur­prised to see the “fetch me the smelling salts” “Is he glor­i­fy­ing this life­style???” ques­tions pop up for a Martin Scorsese movie in 2013. I was too young but I guess now I know what it was like when Goodfellas came out.

  • Kurzleg says:

    Brian -
    I wrote but dis­carded a response to Cameron earli­er that touches on your point. When it’s asked what new insight we might draw by “bring­ing a bunch of hot­shot phonies’ adven­tures to the big screen,” my response is that there’s a dif­fer­ence between know­ledge of the exist­ence of some­thing and the dra­mat­ic por­tray­al of that some­thing and the people involved. I haven’t seen “Wolf,” but “Goodfellas” clearly allows the por­tray­al of that world and its eth­os to more or less incrim­in­ate itself. Any glor­i­fic­a­tion is incid­ent­al and pro­ceeds from the need to accur­ately depict the allure of that life­style (for lack of a bet­ter word) to those people and (pos­sibly) to the view­er. If a judg­ment­al tone seems lack­ing, it’s only because such a tone would dimin­ish the movie’s power.

  • Cameron says:

    Brian, I should rather be sur­prised if, in 2013, nobody ques­tioned the wis­dom behind mak­ing a glitzy $100 mil­lion Leonardo DiCaprio starring-vehicle based on the cash-in mem­oirs of a notori­ous Wall Street playboy-criminal. What great­er glory could Belfort and his cohort hope for – whatever impli­cit or occa­sion­ally expli­cit indict­ments Scorsese has wedged into the por­tray­al of their exploits?
    On the oth­er hand, I see Kurzleg’s point that the dra­mat­ic por­tray­al of this world and the Belfort eth­os can func­tion to incrim­in­ate itself. My judg­ments based on what I saw depic­ted in the film per­haps testi­fy to this. I think this is also what Glenn is arguing when he dis­cusses the dwarves con­fer­ence room scene. But I have to dis­agree that any glor­i­fic­a­tion is “incid­ent­al” to the film’s accur­ate depic­tion of the char­ac­ters’ life­style and their attrac­tion to it. I would counter that this glor­i­fic­a­tion (at least as WoWS is con­cerned) is “inten­tion­al” and part of the alli­ance the film forges with its mater­i­al to make it juici­er enter­tain­ment: stuff like the Foo Fighters*, and the cheeky fram­ing of a pros­ti­tute’s ass cheeks, and any num­ber of ener­get­ic mont­ages depict­ing the rush of accu­mu­lat­ing wealth – these are all Scorsese’s choices, not Belfort’s.
    I’m actu­ally not ask­ing for a judg­ment­al tone to be more obvi­ous here, and in fact I agree it would prob­ably reduce the impact of the film. (Blatant mor­al­iz­ing is a drag. Says I, the pain-in-the-ass mor­al­izer around here.) What I’m try­ing to get at is this Belfort clown’s story did not mer­it adapt­a­tion into a lav­ish Hollywood entertainment-cum-prestige pic­ture in the first place: it is, indeed, point­less. We know this cor­rup­tion exists, we know it’s glor­i­ous for those reap­ing its bene­fits, we know chick­ens even­tu­ally come home to roost (but nev­er quite the way we hope for assholes of this cal­ibre) – what remains to fas­cin­ate and enlight­en in the telling, enough to jus­ti­fy cel­eb­rat­ing this film as one of the year’s sig­nal cine­mat­ic achieve­ments? I think the film mainly ends up com­ing across as an indulgence.
    Glenn, in the clear light of a day later I regret accus­ing Scorsese of get­ting a “bang” out of Belfort (unfor­tu­nate choice of words and all), and I think you’re right that the final scene between DiCaprio and Robbie could be pro­duct­ively unpacked to expose Scorsese’s true feel­ings about/insights into this char­ac­ter. I just wish Scorsese did­n’t feel com­pelled to spend his prodi­gious tal­ents mak­ing high drama out of the lives of “cock­roaches” like this.
    *No offense to the Foo Fighters. It’s just that the waste­ful use their song’s put to is rep­res­ent­at­ive of the film’s mainly gra­tu­it­ous song score.

  • Brian says:

    I see your point to a degree but if your cent­ral argu­ment is really just that the film simply should­n’t exist in the first place or that the mater­i­al is someone how “beneath” an artist of Scorsese’s caliber…well…ok then. There’s not really much I can say about that.

  • Cameron says:

    My New Year’s res­ol­u­tion is not to hold such extreme pos­i­tions. They tend to be unpleas­ant and silence people. Guess this will be the last for me. Anyway, I’ll con­tin­ue to read the con­ver­sa­tion on WoWS as it devel­ops in the next few weeks.

  • andy says:

    Cameron, not hav­ing seen the movie but hav­ing wondered why it existed–for the reas­ons you elucidate–I see noth­ing wrong with any­thing you wrote, nor do I think it was extreme, includ­ing the non-controversial state­ment that he gets a bang out of char­ac­ters like this guy, double entendre aside. That’s why he made the movie. It was sexy to him. It isn’t some cold, dis­tanced French-style read­ing of the scen­ario, after all. Sometimes we, the audi­ence, get a bang out of bad guys too, be it The Sopranos or Goodfellas or whatever, and some­times we don’t, and that dis­tinc­tion will also be split in each instance. I sus­pect you and I just have no interest in this case in see­ing a fin­ance douchebag lion­ized, cri­tique around the edges or no. As far as wheth­er there is suf­fi­cient cri­tique or not, I defer to the Truffaut chest­nut about there being no such thing as an anti­war film. Anyway, this is all to say, as an ex-NYer, pls do not divest your­self of firm, con­sidered stances, even if they do tip toward the extreme, which this did not.

  • Glenn Kenny says:

    OK, I was going to keep my trap shut on this, but since Andy has decided to up the ante, I’m going to sug­gest, as kindly as pos­sible, that people try not to indulge to fer­vently whatever fantasy they enter­tain about how and why motion pic­tures get made. The idea that Scorsese, because he’s Scorsese, can just snap his fin­gers and get over 100 mil­lion dropped in his lap to make any movie that he is com­pelled to make.
    As it hap­pens, after “Hugo,” the movie that Scorsese was most “com­pelled” to make was “Silence,” a tale of Portuguese monks in 19th cen­tury Japan that, whatever its even­tu­al mer­its might have been, would not have excited the sort of com­ment­ary now stim­u­lated by “Wolf.” In any event, fin­an­cing for that pic­ture fell apart, and fin­an­cing for “Wolf,” a pro­ject that DiCaprio had been nurs­ing for years with the hope of Scorsese dir­ect­ing, came togeth­er. With “Wolf” now a sure thing, Scorsese pro­ceeded to, as he put it at a recent press con­fer­ence, “find [his] own way” into the mater­i­al. Now he intends to make “Silence” his next film. We’ll see how that goes. Maybe some “Wolf” object­ors can cre­ate a Kickstarter cam­paign for it.
    Directors work as they can. Projects fall apart, come togeth­er, fall apart again with no regard for what a dir­ect­or is com­pelled by or not. One of the weird­est side effects of auteur-based cri­ti­cism is this belief that dir­ect­ors do what they want when they want. (Especially odd since the whole point of the “poli­tique” was to demon­strate how studio-constrained dir­ect­ors man­aged to SNEAK a per­son­al sig­na­ture onto the films they over­saw.) There are so many factors, so many ruined dreams, so many failed deals, behind each and every film. It took ten years for Scorsese to even want to make “King of Comedy.” So say what you will about the movie, when and if you see it, but don’t act as if you know why the movie got made. Thanks.

  • andy says:

    Glenn, I agree with the things you are say­ing, just not their rel­ev­ance to my gen­er­al point. I will take the slam that I said “That’s why it got made” as a cas­u­al assump­tion without know­ing pre­cisely why it got made. No prob­lem. You got me there. But I did­n’t even know I had said that til I reread my post, bc I really don’t care why it got made, much less have a fantasy about it, fer­vent or otherwise–just wheth­er I should make time in my 80 hr work­week to see it. I just thought, if someone is wor­ried about get­ting brow­beaten for say­ing that they saw the movie and it felt like Scorsese enjoyed romp­ing around with this guy, let them eff­ing say it. He saw the movie, that was his take. If you feel you have proof that Scorsese had oth­er feel­ings about it, I kind of think that’s irrel­ev­ant. I’m one of those “all that mat­ters is the res­ult” guys. I love the driv­ing scene in Solaris, for instance. I don’t give a shit why it’s there. I’m not going to stop lov­ing it bc it was shot in Tokyo and shoe­horned in, or whatever the ridicu­lous dis­cus­sion was about it here some time back. If I hated it, know­ing that Tarkovsky thought it was the most import­ant thing in the world might make me more sym­path­et­ic to it, or him, but at the end of the day, the movie is just what it is. I looked at pro­spect of Wolf, and thought, geez, is that some­thing to make time for? Whatever motiv­a­tion Scorsese had is irrel­ev­ant to me. When I say I won­der why it exists I mean that as cas­u­al, sur­prised curi­ous­ity. If (to get extreme here) Vincent Gallo made a Care Bears movie, I would won­der the same thing. In both instances, the fact that the fil­makers chose the mater­i­al is a reas­on for me to con­sider see­ing some­thing I would­n’t be inter­ested in oth­er­wise. What spe­cif­ic reas­on they had, less so to the point of nil. You seem to think I am mak­ing a judge­ment on Scorsese’s motiv­a­tions and let­ting that make the call for me. Apologies for my poor com­mu­nic­a­tion skils. But, while we are on the top­ic, and at the risk of toy­ing with your ire, he did­n’t do it with a gun to his head, and from what every­one is say­ing about it here, it sounds like he is sex­ing up the mater­i­al to a decent degree. Fair to say? (Maybe not, I haven’t seen it, but that’s the impres­sion giv­en here.) So when you say he had to find his way into it, it sounds like both sex­ing it up and find­ing some crit­ic­al dis­tance could have been a way in. If Wong Kar Wai makes a movie with digit­al slo-mo in it, I might assume it’s because he wanted to. If it turns out a stu­dio forced him to against his will, that’s inter­est­ing to know, but I’m not exactly going to feel like an asshole for work­ing off my assump­tion. But all that mat­ters is wheth­er I want to see a movie with digit­al slo-mo in it. Thanks?

  • andy says:

    BTW, hav­ing been taken too lit­er­ally once already, digit­al slo-mo has no bear­ing on wheth­er I see a Wong Kar-wai film. Nor would it if I ever decided wheth­er or not to see them, but I don’t–I just show up faith­fully. Just did­n’t want to raise the ante, so to speak, from mere irrit­a­tion to apo­plect­ic sputtering.

  • Kurzleg says:

    What would you do if, at 71, the fin­an­cing and star (with whom you’ve already worked!) fall into your lap?

  • andy says:

    Kurzleg–Fair point; I have been think­ing more about this overnight. Glenn’s point about stu­dio sysytems etc seems a bit not too ger­mane in that, at this point (and at every point, really), Scorsese knows that his name will carry a cer­tain imprim­at­ur. Maybe who­ever receives it as such is mis­guided (as I ima­gine Glenn might argue), but I don’t think it’s extreme to say that that is the case, mis­guided or not. That Scorsese chose to make a film implies for the pub­lic an interest in the mater­i­al, to at least a reas­on­able degree. (I’m still not even sure that it is so dis­taste­ful to assume so). Anyway, to answer your ques­tion, if I had dis­taste for the mater­i­al, I sup­pose I would either pass or per­haps sub­vert it, Seijun Suzuki style, to my lik­ing, know­ing that my name was on it and it should be some­thing I wanted out there. (Allowing, of course, that if a pas­sion pro­ject was going to dis­ap­point people expect­ing the “brand,” they could go fuck themeselves.) And pre­sum­ably that is more or less what happened here, from the sound of it.
    It’s funny, because I had actu­ally wondered the oppos­ite: wheth­er DiCaprio had felt unease with glor­i­fy­ing this guy and wheth­er he then might have felt some­what oblig­ated for a vari­ety of reas­ons, to take the role. I simply had it backwards.
    But maybe I am fail­ing to account for great­er real­it­ies than I am famil­i­ar with, as a per­son who does­n’t direct–thanks for put­ting the ques­tion to me. I will say that before I got out of film school I decided that strug­gling to get money as per­mis­sion to make your art was no way to live, and went with music instead. Which I don’t even do professionally–which makes it even easi­er to just do as I please and make my stuff with no undue influ­ence or com­prom­ise. Of course, no one knows my name, and every­one knows Scorsese’s–the world is simply made up of dif­fer­ent people, and in that regard I guess I can­’t really answer your question.

  • jbryant says:

    Haven’t seen WOWS yet, and of course I haven’t spoken to Scorsese about his motiv­a­tion for tak­ing the gig, but it does seem safe to assume it’s along the lines of “Oh, this can get a green light NOW, and the mater­i­al is some­thing I can brang my thang to? Let’s go.” As to wheth­er the sub­ject of the film is worthy, Scorsese has a pretty estim­able track record of mak­ing “prob­lem­at­ic” prot­ag­on­ists worthy of his atten­tion – Travis Bickle, Jake LaMotta, Rupert Pupkin, Henry Hill being the obvi­ous examples. I have no idea if Jordan Belfort will prove as fas­cin­at­ing (obvi­ously some are say­ing NOT), but I’m sure if any­one can pull it off it’s Scorsese.

  • jeandodge says:

    Robert Stone writes (elo­quently) from the per­spect­ive of someone who saw the dreams of his gen­er­a­tion rise and fall mostly unful­filled. Some dream­ers were killed, oth­ers draf­ted into sense­less war, still oth­ers bul­lied into the mar­gins by the forces of what we like to call “pro­gress.”
    “The American Dream” is not some­thing iron­ic, but for those who grew up see­ing it dis­tor­ted by Watergate and even­tu­ally dragged into Ronald Reagan’s vis­ion of “morn­ing in America” it may have been refresh­ing for some to pre­tend that greed was good. Recall that Jerry Rubin had a turn as a stock broker, even­tu­ally. Of course it turned out to be just as big as lie as any, when it was­n’t backed with hon­est actions and good inten­tions. But some­where along the way the dream changed from a hav­ing bucol­ic yeo­man farm free from gov­ern­ment inter­fer­ence into “I wanna be rich and famous.”
    Also it’s import­ant to note that this same real life “cock­roach” inspired anoth­er film called BOILER ROOM that did­n’t need 100 mil­lion dol­lars to make it’s point.

  • A. Campbell says:

    We know this cor­rup­tion exists, we know it’s glor­i­ous for those reap­ing its bene­fits, we know chick­ens even­tu­ally come home to roost (but nev­er quite the way we hope for assholes of this cal­ibre) – what remains to fas­cin­ate and enlight­en in the telling, enough to jus­ti­fy cel­eb­rat­ing this film as one of the year’s sig­nal cine­mat­ic achieve­ments? I think the film mainly ends up com­ing across as an indulgence.”
    Substitute “box­ing” or “organ­ized crime” or “war” for “this cor­rup­tion” and you have a catch-all for dis­miss­ing just about any movie you hap­pen to find bey­ond the pale. Maybe it SHOULD be dif­fi­cult and excess­ive, eh?

  • jbryant says:

    Saw it a couple of nights ago. Thought it was pretty great. Never once did I feel I was being nudged into even a grudging admir­a­tion of Belfort and com­pany. It depicts the life they lived and shows the con­sequences of it, but not in a hand-holding, Stanley Kramer way. It did help me under­stand the mind­set of these assholes and what attracts their type to that work. Seems like a per­fectly val­id aim for a mod­ern film to me, because people like that affect oth­ers’ lives. Do naysay­ers have a prob­lem with great films that depict oth­er types of crime, like THE ASPHALT JUNGLE or THE KILLING, to say noth­ing of earli­er Scorsese pro­duc­tions? I don’t expect such an expli­cit depic­tion to be to every­one’s taste, of course, but I think Scorsese’s aims are clear enough that he should­n’t have to be accused of glor­i­fy­ing or excus­ing the beha­vi­or he’s portraying.

  • Edward Furey says:

    I think the Stratton Oakmont ad that starts the pic­ture is not a real S‑R ad, but rather a par­ody of the ads Dreyfus used to run, which fea­tured a lion pro­ceed­ing about the fin­an­cial dis­trict, in one case emer­ging from a sub­way entrance.