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Ray Liotta, Goodfellas, Martin Scorsese, 1990

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Henry Hill

When I was a kid, I was watch­ing a tele­vi­sion talk show on which the recently paroled Depresion-era crim­in­al Alvin Karpis, or maybe just someone who was asso­ci­ated with him, was a guest. And this guest was asked to describe his con­fed­er­ate Clyde Barrow, of Bonnie and Clyde and Bonnie and Clyde fame, and this fel­low said—and I seem to remem­ber this part exactly—he said, “Well I’ll tell you one thing for sure, he wer­en’t no Clyde Beatty.” He meant Warren Beatty, of course, but the con­fu­sion with the (by-now-not-quite-so) fam­ous cir­cus dude was kind of touch­ing. In any event, the point was and remains well-taken.

When Beatty made Bonnie and Clyde, the real Clyde Barrow was long dead, and hence could not reappear in some medi­um or oth­er to break the spell cast by the movie and Beatty’s work in it. This was not the case with Henry Hill, the source of Nick Pileggi’s non-fiction book Wiseguys and its sub­sequent film adapt­a­tion, Martin Scorsese’s 1990 GoodFellas.

GoodFellas is fre­quently cited as a har­row­ing deglam­our­iz­a­tion of the gang­ster life/lifestyle, although it cer­tainly owns up to the perks that crimin­al­ity can oft­times fur­nish; still in all, it shoots down vari­ous romantic notions con­cern­ing hon­or among thieves and depicts with great con­vic­tion a milieu that’s not just entirely mor­ally bank­rupt but essen­tially taw­dry, vul­gar, squal­id, and all that. 

Still. In their essay “The Power And The Gory,” Manny Farber and Patricia Patterson take Scorsese’s 1976 Taxi Driver to task, among oth­er ways, thusly: “The intense [Robert] DeNiro is sold as a mis­fit psychot­ic and, at the same time, a cha­ris­mat­ic star who cen­ters every shot and is giv­en a pris­mat­ic detail­ing.” They hold Scorsese spe­cific­ally respons­ible for this. But is the fault (if it is in fact a “fault” in the first place) Scorsese’s, or is it nar­rat­ive fic­tion­al cinema’s itself?

The ques­tion could not help but come up in one’s mind every time Henry Hill him­self deigned to come out of pro­tect­ive cus­tody hid­ing and appear on some news-based or reality-type tele­vi­sion show or oth­er. He seemed a recog­niz­able type, of sorts; a real mook, if you will. Bit of an atten­tion whore as well, which I ima­gine was part of the patho­logy that helped get him into the life, and trouble, in the first place. One thing he defin­it­ively was not was Ray Liotta. 

As pro­tean as Liotta’s per­form­ance in the film is, as eager and unhes­it­at­ing as he is as a per­former to plumb the sweaty, powdered-nose depths of his char­ac­ter­’s even­tu­al deprav­ity, as much of his act­orly van­ity as he is able to shed, he still remains…a per­former, and a per­former with an innate sense of cha­risma. Which is, ulti­mately, neces­sary in some way to audi­ence engage­ment in even the most bru­tally hon­est but nev­er­the­less con­ven­tion­ally conceived/structured nar­rat­ive fic­tion­al film. If Henry Hill, who died Tuesday at the age of 69, had him­self been able to sum­mon the abil­ity to be noth­ing but him­self and har­nessed that abil­ity into per­form­ance as him­self, and then took the role of him­self in GoodFellas—I know I’m deal­ing in a lot of rank implaus­ib­il­it­ies here, but bear with me, and also that’s the whole point—the movie would have been a stone drag to sit through. Because, from all avail­able appear­ance, Henry Hill really WAS a schnook, albeit one who hit and shot people a fair amount more than schnooks such as you and I. 

23 Comments

  • Not quite sure hat you’re get­ting at here, Glenn. Being a well-trained and skill­ful act­or Liotta is obvi­ously more inter­est­ing to watch than the “real” Henry Hill would have been. But there are oth­er forces at play as well. While “Taxi Driver” is all about DFeNrio’s Travis Bickle, Liott’as Hnery Hill is merely a focal point in “Goodfelllas” which deals with the entire world in which he oper­ated. As a res­ult DeNiro, Joe Pesci and Lorraine Bracco (as Hill’s wife) get more than ample screen time. The ques­tion of wheth­er film “glam­or­izes” or “exposes” the world it exam­ines remains open. I would say it’s a bit of both.
    I doubt the “real” Henry Hill could have played him­self. He’s not Ondine in “The Chelsea Girls” after all.

  • Petey says:

    Glenn writes:
    “They hold Scorsese spe­cific­ally respons­ible for this. But is the fault (if it is in fact a “fault” in the first place) Scorsese’s, or is it nar­rat­ive fic­tion­al cinema’s itself?”
    and
    “Which is, ulti­mately, neces­sary in some way to audi­ence engagement”
    One of the cent­ral tricks of the cinema, of course, is allow­ing the audi­ence to pro­ject into a protagonist.
    And that leads to choices in cast­ing. Or put anoth­er way, folks always loved snick­er­ing about Keanu Reeves’ “act­ing”, while nev­er under­stand­ing why he was such an EFFECTIVE lead in cer­tain movies.
    Glenn also writes:
    “Henry Hill … seemed a recog­niz­able type”
    Which is exactly why he would­n’t have had Liotta’s power to allow the audi­ence to pro­ject into him. Liotta, like most movie stars, has a lot more blank­ness than a recog­niz­able type would. And beauty helps both ensures a cer­tain gen­er­ic­ness and makes for an easi­er portal for the audience.

  • Petey says:

    “The ques­tion of wheth­er film “glam­or­izes” or “exposes” the world it exam­ines remains open. I would say it’s a bit of both.”
    Of course, almost all movies with crim­in­als at the cen­ter glam­or­ize crime. It’s part of the mechanism.
    (Which is why the REAL end­ing of The Sopranos was so lovely. It came in the second to last epis­ode, when Lorraine Bracco, (act­ing as sur­rog­ate for the audi­ence), shuts the door on the crim­in­al prot­ag­on­ist whose glam­or she’s felt com­pelled to watch. It’s a nice way to implic­ate the audi­ence in the mor­al wrong­ness of what they’ve been enjoying.)

  • Petey says:

    And if I may be for­giv­en for going off on a tan­gent; my most vivid memory of watch­ing Goodfellas open­ing night was when Donovan’s Atlantis came on the juke­box. From my col­lege days exper­i­ment­ing with blot­ter paper, I KNEW that song well. And I knew that it lulls for a long, long time, but then it kicks in, and when it does, it really kicks in. So my heart rate kept going up for a long time as I waited for the intens­ity I knew was coming…

  • I don’t agree that star cha­risma is “neces­sary” for audi­ence engagement.
    Godard’s “Les Carabiniers” comes to mind as an example of a movie about unat­tract­ive, stu­pid, amor­al schnooks played by unknowns without any star appeal what­so­ever, and it’s by no means a “stone drag” to sit through–although, that said, I get a dif­fer­ent kind of pleas­ure from Godard’s film than I do from Scorsese’s.
    And while I do think that “Goodfellas” is one of Scorsese’s bet­ter films, it does seem to me some­thing of an inco­her­ent text in that it pos­i­tions itself as demys­ti­fy­ing organ­ized crime at the same time that it makes Henry Hill seem very cha­ris­mat­ic and excit­ing when he really was­n’t (and I doubt the film would be as pop­u­lar or as pres­ti­gi­ous if it wer­en’t for this under­ly­ing con­tra­dic­tion). In oth­er words, like all Hollywood biop­ics, it prints the legend.

  • Petey says:

    “I don’t agree that star cha­risma is “neces­sary” for audi­ence engagement.”
    I agree with you. There are many ways to skin a cat. And there are many poten­tial tricks in the cinema bag.
    But “neces­sary” or not, it’s still one of the most fun­da­ment­al tricks of the cinema.

  • Petey says:

    “it does seem to me some­thing of an inco­her­ent text in that it pos­i­tions itself as demys­ti­fy­ing organ­ized crime at the same time that it makes Henry Hill seem very cha­ris­mat­ic and exciting ”
    Were that true, then the over­whelm­ing major­ity of Easterners ever made have been “inco­her­ent texts”…

  • bill says:

    He looked like Ron Liebman.

  • Dave Wallfisch says:

    No shit, Sherlock.

  • Partisan says:

    And yet people are able to make (and see) World War 2 movies without being attrac­ted to the Nazis. One could argue that GOODFELLAS purged the gang­ster genre of its romantic ele­ments, only to ensure the attrac­tion to raw power was even more power­ful. Perhaps gang­ster movies should have starred Ralph Bellamy and be dir­ec­ted by Straub/Huillet.
    “We call pros­ti­tu­tion a vic­tim­less crime because we don’t con­sider pros­ti­tutes people.”–a line look­ing for a movie.

  • I would sya it replaced the old romantic ele­ments with new ones. Traditional gamng­ster films revlled in the rise and fall of cha­ris­mat­ic mob­sters. Look at Cagney in “The Roaring Twenties.” He’s a mob­ster who “has his reas­ons” and under­neath it all a good heart. The look at Cagney in “White Heat.” There he’s a rav­ing psy­cho­path of almost Shakepearean grandeur (which is why that film was paid hom­mage to in the finale of the Ian McKellen “Richard III”)

  • Nick Ramsey says:

    I ordered some spa­ghetti with mar­in­ara sauce, and I got egg noodles and ketchup.
    Kills me.

  • Whenever I watch GOODFELLAS, I nev­er fail to notice how, regard­less of how pathet­ic and vile Hill is depic­ted, the film is very care­ful to place him in a slightly high­er plane of conduct/behavior than Jimmy, Tommy, and the rest. This does­n’t mit­ig­ate my enjoy­ment of it, as a film – I’ll nev­er under­stand why Pauline Kael was­n’t over the moon about Scorsese, if you assembled a pro­gram based on what seemed to turn her on, movie-wise, it would be a pro­gram to a movie like RAGING BULL or GOODFELLAS – but it’s inter­est­ing nev­er­the­less, as a choice made by the ensemble of storytelling.
    I also think it has some small role in illus­trat­ing why CASINO is the super­i­or picture.

  • colinr says:

    That reminds me – if you ever way to see the real Jake LaMotta try­ing to act check out the 1968 film Confessions Of A Psycho Cat!

  • Paul Duane says:

    “And yet people are able to make (and see) World War 2 movies without being attrac­ted to the Nazis.”
    Well, THAT state­ment does­n’t require any unpacking.

  • colinr says:

    The com­ments about need­ing the nat­ur­al cha­risma of an act­or in a film role are inter­est­ing, although it makes me think that De Niro did the whole ‘de-charismaisation’ of lead­ing act­ors with Matt Damon in The Good Shepherd. I thought it worked but then I sup­pose there is room for argu­ment there!

  • Petey says:

    “Whenever I watch GOODFELLAS, I nev­er fail to notice how, regard­less of how pathet­ic and vile Hill is depic­ted, the film is very care­ful to place him in a slightly high­er plane of conduct/behavior than Jimmy, Tommy, and the rest.”
    As Flavius Josephus said, “History is writ­ten by the informers”
    Everyone makes Daniel Ellsberg, John Dean, and Woodward & Bernstein the her­oes. No one can make Nixon the hero. (Though Altman and Stone do their due diligence…)

  • Brandon says:

    Scorsese does tend to ride/oscillate that line between dis­tanced rev­er­ence and idol­atry with his ‘mor­ally cor­rup­ted’ char­ac­ters, but it is, obvi­ously, up to the view­er to buy into the gen­er­ated cha­risma by him or the act­ors involved. Liotta has since played oth­er vul­gar char­ac­ters without that type of charm, so I think it was clearly inten­tion­al to ‘glam­our­ize’ the guy in order to then break him down harder.…Wouldn’t the real Hill have needed a bit of that early on to get away with all that he did.…until he didn’t?
    In regard to TAXI DRIVER, Schrader is par­tic­u­larly adam­ant about Bickle clearly being a psy­cho­path who is not inten­ded as a hero or anti-hero of any sort, but that has­n’t stopped a gen­er­a­tion (or two) of view­er­’s from latch­ing on to that read­ing. The char­ac­ter­’s ties to Vietnam are kept to a min­im­um to keep sym­pathy away from any per­ceived war trauma and Columbia kept all involved from inten­tion­ally mak­ing him more racist (i.e. killing only black people in the shootout). So, I guess, like with any­one, there are a com­plex­ity of factors that go into how cha­risma is perceived…

  • Petey says:

    “In regard to TAXI DRIVER, Schrader is par­tic­u­larly adam­ant about…”
    Schrader, (whose work I greatly admire), is a notori­ously unre­li­able wit­ness about his own work.
    “The char­ac­ter­’s ties to Vietnam are kept to a minimum”
    Say wha?

  • lipranzer says:

    I some­times have that thought about GOODFELLAS, but in a dif­fer­ent way; I don’t think it glam­or­izes Hill per se (although it does seem as if he’s a little more repulsed by Tommy or Jimmy’s actions than Pileggi described him in the book), but while I know every­one is the hero of their own story, it seems like the movie elev­ates his import­ance some­what, com­pared to the book, where he’s pretty much a mechanic.

  • Shawn Stone says:

    “And yet people are able to make (and see) World War 2 movies without being attrac­ted to the Nazis.”
    What was it Sylvia Miles said to Ralph Fiennes at that awards dinner?
    Hill looks like Ned Glass to me.

  • James R. says:

    For me it IS a stone drag to sit through. I’d rather have seen a film about De Niro’s char­ac­ter rather than Henry Hill, who’s a dull char­ac­ter that Liotta fails to make interesting.

  • I remem­ber that Alvin Karpis appear­ance as well. I think it was the ABC talk show “Man Trap” circa ’71 or so. I recall he also said unflat­ter­ing things about J. Edgar Hoover, and that the woman on the pan­el sort of ganged up to express their dis­ap­prov­al of his crim­in­al life.

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